Not really, I mean at full power Kains blood reaver can control time, energy etc, far more useful than Raziels elemental powers however against Raziel Kains reaver is even more deadly because it is made to make him part of it, to make him the soul reaver. Which is what made Raziel tear Kains heart out.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos can survive after an enormous metal contruction (colossus of rhodes) smashes him and can survive a fair duration while impaled on the blade of Omlypus.
He would've died, and if you look at one of the clips at the beginning of GoWII, Colossus' hand was small.\
@SuperLuigi: Kain has been seen to teleport in cutscenes in Defiance, so it's possible that he doesn't need the "dimentional" reaver. Also, in order to use The Soul Reaver, you have to be weakened, I think.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Well, while Kain is distracted with Ganon, Kratos comes behind Kain and rips his head off. Also, Kaincan slow only nearby opponents, and thats after his reaver has enough blood.
Hes not going to be just distracted, as I said he just slows nearby opponents, Kratos coming up behind Kain counts as nearby furthermore Kain can teleport as you well know, so Kain can teleport right next to his foe instead of waiting them to come to him. Tbh this is another fight where kratos is useless, if Ganon is a teleporter too then they will both be teleporting around the battlefield, maybe even fighting in the air through teleportation...not that the battle will take long, one of these dimentionally quick teleports will take both of them.
Also the blood thing is a gameplay mechanic, not to mension the reaver after becoming the soul reaver takes souls not blood anyway.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
i know he can teleport but he cant in succesion.
You seen the last vid in Kains respect thread? he teleports quickly 4/5 times in succession......thats with the reavers teleport...
Normally Kain can teleport over and over again, he does it in Soul reaver 1, its just not as fast.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
so if raziel can tear kains heart out why couldnt kratos?
He could in theory, but then Kratos is not going to get teh chance, the only reason Raziel got that close was because Kain was not even trying to hurt him and was under a fair amount of PIS, theres no chance Kratos is going to get that close especially with Kain being faster.
Thats probably a gameplay mechanic as well, I would agree...theres no way in realistic canon having money=energy for the use of armour unless its got a slot on the front saying "only takes 20 rupees" or something 🙂
Well thats because it is, the A.I in the battle between Kain and Raziel use their reaver spells constantly, even twice in a row, the idea that the blade needs to absorb blood to use powers that are attached to it makes no sense either. The reaver is simply a blood siphoning weapon, it has no container on it that holds blood for when Kain uses powers from it, which are just slotted piecies, I cant see how a square rune can require blood to function and how this blood somehow connects to the rune. Furthermore how does it activate? Kain simply raises it in the air or does a small movement which indicates all he has to do is think to use it, what does the blood so suddenly flow out of the blade and enters the runes? no...
But anyway, that was a rant, the blood requirement is something only seen in gameplay, and even in gameplay this is broken by the Raziel vs Kain A.I
Without an upgraded reaver Kain has shown to be able to teleport several times, just not as fast as the dimentional fragment. Check my vid in my bio if you want to see him teleport over and over. theres no logic behind him not being able to tleeport more than once anyway tbh.
Originally posted by Gumachi
@BT: Kain probably wouldn't know if he was behind him. Hell, he probably wouldn't be fast enough to react.
The time reaver has nothing to do with how fast Kain can react and furthermore Kains faster than kratos....hes not much quicker than a man...
Mist form being faster still which is Kains main form to dodge.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats probably a gameplay mechanic as well, I would agree...theres no way in realistic canon having money=energy for the use of armour unless its got a slot on the front saying "only takes 20 rupees" or something 🙂Well thats because it is, the A.I in the battle between Kain and Raziel use their reaver spells constantly, even twice in a row, the idea that the blade needs to absorb blood to use powers that are attached to it makes no sense either. The reaver is simply a blood siphoning weapon, it has no container on it that holds blood for when Kain uses powers from it, which are just slotted piecies, I cant see how a square rune can require blood to function and how this blood somehow connects to the rune. Furthermore how does it activate? Kain simply raises it in the air or does a small movement which indicates all he has to do is think to use it, what does the blood so suddenly flow out of the blade and enters the runes? no...
But anyway, that was a rant, the blood requirement is something only seen in gameplay, and even in gameplay this is broken by the Raziel vs Kain A.I
Don't go using realism Mr. "fiction doesn't have realistic physics."
It sounds like a requirement for the spell, just like Link needs to have rupees in his wallet to make the magic armor work.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Don't go using realism Mr. "fiction doesn't have realistic physics."It sounds like a requirement for the spell, just like Link needs to have rupees in his wallet to make the magic armor work.
I am not talking about accurate physics...you cant use gameplay mechanics as a reason for realistic fiction.
As I said, gameplay mechanic, only mentioned in gameplay, only seen in gameplay and the mechanic is even broken and changed in gameplay when the game suits it....theres no canon behind Kain having to use blood to power slotted fragements....or powers
He always uses a no limits fallacy, Ganon has no real feats at all and Ganon can definatley not barely harm Kain, let alone kill him. And stop useing that nonsense as a durability feat, Midna launched magic at a spiritual form of Ganondorf, a disembodied head whos like cannot be assumed to have the same durability or statistics as all of Ganons more typical forms....the whole scene is extremely vague.
Even if we assume it true, Ganon cannot suffer his soul being ripped out, his blood being drained and loseing his powers to Kain OR being frozen in time...
Originally posted by Burning thought
The time reaver has nothing to do with how fast Kain can react and furthermore Kains faster than kratos....hes not much quicker than a man...Mist form being faster still which is Kains main form to dodge.
They're only slowed by 50%, I think. Kain isn't either.
EDIT: Isn't Ganon basically someone with powers of a god, lol?
Kain is not slowed, it was as I said a bait in another thread, no canon of the sword states it as slowing Kain, merely his enemies around him. Kain moves at his usual gameplay speed as shown in the video I have provided. the 50% is a rough estimate, I personally think its more as the character in question that was being slowed in my video is useually quicker than that, infact so is Kains TK throw of enemies.
Ganon uses the triforce of power, which seems to be enchanted with some sort of godly energies although the effects on Ganon himself seem very limited, he has to resort to some poor tactics like turning into a large and seemingly mindless beast half the time...useing size over actual power.