ROTS Sidious vs Orbalisk Bane

Now before everybody shouts "SIDIOUS HE'S STATED TO BE THE MOST POWERFUL SITH!!!!!!!" Remember that "most powerful sith" just means that Sidious > Bane, not that Sidious > Bane with ORBALISKS on.

Luke is the most powerful jedi, but that doesn't mean that Luke > an average padawan with the imperial fleet at his command.

So who wins, and please use feats/evidence, not "Sidious is the most poweful sith" because that quote doesn't take the Obalisks into account.

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All out

And oh, I'm still undecided as to who wins. Haven't read RoT, but I've read PoD.

Not to mention that it could easily be referring to power in the Force specifically (among other things, some of which that have no relation to combat or ability with the Force, and even that's assuming that the canonicity and infallibility of the sources can even be confirmed, but we don't have to get into that right now) which doesn't take into account control over the Force, an area where Bane is on paper completely unrivalled in.

Bane in a stomp.

RotS Sidious' lightning was enough to take on the most powerful foe the Darkness has ever known. This is no Bane stomp.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
RotS Sidious' lightning was enough to take on the most powerful foe the Darkness has ever known. This is no Bane stomp.

Of course not, but is it a Sidious WIN?

And oh yeah, you shouldn't talk to Nebaris, remember? I wonder if I should report you...

Bane vs Sidious

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What an excellent thread idea! This is an extremely interesting question that has never been asked or debated before in any other thread!

That thread said that "feats cannot be applied here." In this thread, I am trying to tell to people to ignore the "Sidious is the most powerful sith ever!" quotes from sources because this is Bane with ORBALISKS, which changes things up a bit: Coloman Trebor (sp?) with a fleet at his command can still beat Yoda "the greatest foe the darkness has ever known", because the quote doesn't take into account outside objects such as Orbalisks or fleets.

In other words, let's discuss in this thread who's better based on feats, and maybe some quotes.

We do that anyways.

*Sigh*

*sigh*

Can you guys please just debate?

I'd say that Sidious wins after a hard fight, but I haven't read RoT so my opinion isn't really substantiated.

Debate? This has been done before... We all consider Bane his Orbs to be part of his, it's more likely to say no Orbies than say with Orbies. Only tools like Nebaris would say Bane wins.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Debate? This has been done before... We all consider Bane his Orbs to be part of his, it's more likely to say no Orbies than say with Orbies. Only tools like Nebaris would say Bane wins.

That's entirely reasonable, but can you guys find feats that Sidious acomplished that trump Bane's? Not saying that Bane wins, just wondering.

Bane all the way. No, its close but I think Bane does win. I don't by that Sidious quote crap and even if the quotes are taken as total fact, it could just as easily be referring to different incarnations of Sidious, or his political and military power, not his combat ability.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Bane all the way. No, its close but I think Bane does win. I don't by that Sidious quote crap and even if the quotes are taken as total fact, it could just as easily be referring to different incarnations of Sidious, or his political and military power, not his combat ability.

You have got to be kidding me. You're only 2-3 years behind with this retarded logic.

Guys, can you say HOW Bane wins/HOW Sidious wins?

Sidious fries Banes' orbalisks? That is one idea.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
You have got to be kidding me. You're only 2-3 years behind with this retarded logic.

I am not going to revert to falling back to quotes in order to try and make an argument. I still stick to the "retarded logic" which is better than no logic at all.

Originally posted by truejedi
Sidious fries Banes' orbalisks? That is one idea.

Proof that Sidious can get through Bane's defenses (lightsaber, Force shield, orbalisks, and his own resistance to pain)? Not saying that he can't, I've read PoD but not RoT. PoD Bane obviously gets tooled, but RoT Bane w/Orbalisks IDK since I don't have the book.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I am not going to revert to falling back to quotes in order to try and make an argument. I still stick to the "retarded logic" which is better than no logic at all.

So basically, you want us to debate about how Sidious would win, but you want to ignore all the evidence that supports it? Hm...

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
The quote was refering to his battle with Yoda. What does that have to do with political power?

Wait what? The quote I was referring to is about how he is the greatest Sith ever. That doesn't automatically refer to his combat ability.