Create your own 'FC' ending to a storyline!

Originally posted by willRules
I say this as a massive Batman fan, whose jaw dropped to the floor in FC #6.

The first two issues of Blackest Night have been more enjoyable than anything I read in Final Crisis. If Blackest Night sustains this quality, it will be a far, far superior story to Final Crisis.

My jaw didn't drop when Superman from alternate dimensions were being recruited. I didn't care for the zoo crew. I didn't gasp when Superman wearing an armour made of stories, fights a Monitor vampire for the sake of his wife's life.

However, when Hawkgirl told Hawkman she loved him, only to have a spear burst through her chest, I fell off my chair. When zombified heroes started ripping organs from established DCU characters, I thought that was ballsy of DC.

More ballsy than the death of characters that were just created for the event, like Mandrakk.

IMO, so far, Blackest Night is winning the "which storyline is cooler and more entertaining" contest.

Then you're nothing short of a herochat poster.

Go, go post there. Go post, I won't care. Go post. Go be with Quanchi and the Marvel crew. uhuh

I've not been on herochat. ❌

But c'mon. Blackest Night has been soooooo awesome so far! ✅

That's not to take away from FC, but if the comparison had to be made....

Originally posted by willRules
I've not been on herochat. ❌

But c'mon. Blackest Night has been soooooo awesome so far! ✅

That's not to take away from FC, but if the comparison had to be made....

I was not blown away until I read the FC hardcover as a whole, with Superman Beyond. When I read the issues separately, I was only enjoying Final Crisis: Revelations.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Forgot to paste in the first bit of my summary. This is all of it.

Darkseid upon winning the war in heaven falls broken to Earth dragging reality with him. His opening moves disable the trinity and remove Earth's lanterns leaving earth defenceless. Darkseid easily conquers the planet. The worlds only hope is the newly reborn Barry Allen.

Meanwhile Superman has travelled into 4th dimensional space along with other trans-dimensional Supermen to find a way to save Lois. On the monitor world he and Ultraman must combine their energies to a colossal thought robot to Fight Mandrakk, formally Dax Novu the original Monitor from crisis on infinite Earths. Mandrakk is killed after a battle that shakes reality, but his essence infects one of his minions and Mandrakk is reborn.

On Earth, the resistance is faltering. Batman looses is life as he mortally wounds Darkseids body. Superman returns breaking Darkseid's forces, just as the Flash's arrive leading Death to Darkseid. the combined efforts of the heroes and villains break Darkseids hold on the Earth, but are too late to save reality.

On a strange amalgam of the various Superhero bases floating in the shattered remains of reality, Superman and the worlds greatest scientists work together to build the ultimate expression of technology, however as they work other realities are falling victim to Darkseid. Superman and Darkseid have their final battle, but the effort weakens Superman.

Mandrakk returns, but Superman is able to activate the Miracle machine and makes his wish. Mandrakk is set upon by the Supermen of the multiverse, the angels of the Pax Dei, The new forever people, Captain Carrot and the Zoo crew and the Green Lantern corps. The heroes rebuild existence and things return to normal. The monitor world returns to the primal expanse that formed it leaving the stories of the DCU to grow unfettered.

You have written a very good review. But I'd be very impressed if you could condense it to 2-3 sentences like what I did for COIE and IC. But you can't. Why? Because FC was a bloated, convoluted mess that flew off in dozens of different directions.

When I read the first few issues of Infinite Crisis it was like reading FC: lots of different plotlines swirling around one another, seeming to suggest I had to read all the different tie-ins to understand everything going on. But by the last few issues Johns tied in EVERYTHING and it all made perfect sense...events like the Rann-Thanagar war (which seemingly had nothing to do with anything) blended in nicely.

God I wish Johns had written FC. Could have been the masterpiece it was hyped to be...

Originally posted by theICONiac
You have written a very good review. But I'd be very impressed if you could condense it to 2-3 sentences like what I did for COIE and IC. But you can't. Why? Because FC was a bloated, convoluted mess that flew off in dozens of different directions.

Ah. Just when I thought today was one of those days when I'm not going to run into hilarious lines of thinking.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Who's said they couldn't follow it?

As for jumping on the bandwagon I said "give them another issue" every time right up until the end.

They did.

Your point ? You misunderstood what I wrote. I never said that everybody who said didn't like it did so only to jump on the bandwagon.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Ah. Just when I thought today was one of those days when I'm not going to run into hilarious lines of thinking.

Thank you.

Your welcome!

Care to refute the hilarity? Hmmm?

Originally posted by theICONiac
Care to

No.

Originally posted by Philosophía
No.

Didn't think so. It is a hard position to defend.

💃

Darkseid kidnaps Catwoman and Batman kicks his ass. Oh, and bring back Barry Allen.

The End.

Originally posted by willRules
I've not been on herochat. ❌

But c'mon. Blackest Night has been soooooo awesome so far! ✅

That's not to take away from FC, but if the comparison had to be made....

Blackest Night has been dissapointing so far, but I guess that's just me having the wrong expectations. Not to say it hasn't been decent, but I figured they'd me... more.

Originally posted by Allankles
Blackest Night has been dissapointing so far, but I guess that's just me having the wrong expectations. Not to say it hasn't been decent, but I figured they'd me... more.

What are you disappointed about? What were you expecting? My dislike of FC springs from expectations.

Originally posted by theICONiac
You have written a very good review. But I'd be very impressed if you could condense it to 2-3 sentences like what I did for COIE and IC. But you can't. Why? Because FC was a bloated, convoluted mess that flew off in dozens of different directions.

When I read the first few issues of Infinite Crisis it was like reading FC: lots of different plotlines swirling around one another, seeming to suggest I had to read all the different tie-ins to understand everything going on. But by the last few issues Johns tied in EVERYTHING and it all made perfect sense...events like the Rann-Thanagar war (which seemingly had nothing to do with anything) blended in nicely.

God I wish Johns had written FC. Could have been the masterpiece it was hyped to be...

I'd point out you'd have trouble summing up Watchmen, Miracle Man or the first arc of Sandman in a few sentences, but there we go. Fine I'll bite:

Darkseid having finally gained the anti life equation destroys free will and threatens all existence with his very presence. However this depravity threatens to unleash an even deadlier more primal evil. Only the combined forces of the Superheroes of 52 universe can end this final crisis.

There three sentences. Any questions?

As for blackest night. Really now? I read invincible so the super hero gore was nothing exciting. CHawkman and Hawk girl had already been killed off in final crisis and then that death was swiftly retconned, so no I wasn't particularly shocked the first time they died and I wasn't shocked the second time even if it was more bloody. it just felt pointless.

The tie ins have been much better than the main event. Especially the GL/Flash/Martian manhunter fight.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I'd point out you'd have trouble summing up Watchmen, Miracle Man or the first arc of Sandman in a few sentences, but there we go. Fine I'll bite:

Darkseid having finally gained the anti life equation destroys free will and threatens all existence with his very presence. However this depravity threatens to unleash an even deadlier more primal evil. Only the combined forces of the Superheroes of 52 universe can end this final crisis.

There three sentences. Any questions?

As for blackest night. Really now? I read invincible so the super hero gore was nothing exciting. CHawkman and Hawk girl had already been killed off in final crisis and then that death was swiftly retconned, so no I wasn't particularly shocked the first time they died and I wasn't shocked the second time even if it was more bloody. it just felt pointless.

The tie ins have been much better than the main event. Especially the GL/Flash/Martian manhunter fight.

How many tie-in's did 'Watchmen' have to understand what was going on in the main story?

Originally posted by theICONiac
How many tie-in's did 'Watchmen' have to understand what was going on in the main story?

And that has what to do with my point? My point was ease of summarizationn has nothing to do with quality. Only Superman beyond is needed to understand final crisis which is why it's included in the trade.

Considering Moore was very keen on the idea of event tie ins based on his twilight of Superheroes pitch I'm not sure where you going with this.

wait wait wait, is Watchmen as deep and abstract as Final Crisis now?

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
And that has what to do with my point? My point was ease of summarizationn has nothing to do with quality. Only Superman beyond is needed to understand final crisis which is why it's included in the trade.

Considering Moore was very keen on the idea of event tie ins based on his twilight of Superheroes pitch I'm not sure where you going with this.

Sorry you are right...I am going off on a different tangent here.

One big problem with FC was you HAD to read the various tie-in's to appreciate the full story in FC. That is where I am going with that.

Your summerization is a little more pretty than mine, but parallels it to the T: at the end of it all nothing changed - except for the mind-blowing disappearance of the Monitors. Meh...

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Considering Moore was very keen on the idea of event tie ins based on his twilight of Superheroes pitch I'm not sure where you going with this.

Watchmen didn't end up needing those tie in. It succeed in being a complete story on it's own merits. Tie ins really ought to add to the story not fill in major plot points that are missing from the main book.

However, I'll admit that FC did make excellent use of tie ins.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Tie ins really ought to add to the story not fill in major plot points that are missing from the main book.

Yes, that is what I meant!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Watchmen didn't end up needing those tie in. It succeed in being a complete story on it's own merits. Tie ins really ought to add to the story not fill in major plot points that are missing from the main book.

However, I'll admit that FC did make excellent use of tie ins.

It only made excellent use of the tie ins for the very reason you said. It had to. It was essential to the main plot. FC was too convoluted to be explained in just the main series. 🙁