Wonder Woman Vs Thor -Who is stronger?

Started by Zeuodin29 pages

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't know, but it matters not. He always has his hammer. Thor is not Thor without his Hammer.

We were talking about strength feats. Diana always has her lasso and bracers. So I guess she beats Thor because her lasso is a one shot. And Thor can't break her shields no matter how hard he hits with the hammer.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I've NEVER seen Thor use martial arts in all my years of reading. I've never seen him use a bow an arrow, sword or anything like that. i've never seen him block multiple projectiles with pin point accuracy. twiling his hammer doesn't count. it's just the hammer twirling.

well duh! Thor's a viking.

no, i haven't seen him use a bow and arrow either, but why would he? he's got a hammer that he can thor, project lighting with, shoot out some kind of energy blast etc

he has used a sword iirc

no, he doesn't have to block multiple projectiles as he can either dodge em, spin his hammer to block em, or simply tank em

Originally posted by Zeuodin
We were talking about strength feats. Diana always has her lasso and bracers. So I guess she beats Thor because her lasso is a one shot. And Thor can't break her shields no matter how hard he hits with the hammer.

Funny, Superman broke her shield, but that's not the point.

Her rarely carries her shield, and she almost never uses her Gauntlets (if she still has them). Besides that, shields have a weaknesses.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Funny, Superman broke her shield, but that's not the point.

Her rarely carries her shield, and she almost never uses her Gauntlets (if she still has them). Besides that, shields have a weaknesses.

I believe he is referring to her Aegis bracers, and the power they can manifest to block the "god-power" of other gods/their energy blasts; they can, at times, manifest a force field of the Aegis, which is more symbolic than literal, as it repels all sorts of divine assaults...

EDIT: Have to bat for Thor on a point -- his "twirling Mjolner" has proven effective against deflecting attacks of many sorts over the years -- I don't have the various issues, myself, but have seen many such instances in my friend's collection... the effect is not as powerful or effective as Diana's, but still pretty effective...

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
Funny, Superman broke her shield, but that's not the point.

Her rarely carries her shield, and she almost never uses her Gauntlets (if she still has them). Besides that, shields have a weaknesses.


Superman has never broken her shield. ever. Superman Red sun was a whate if else worlds story. And her shield has never been broken. We aren't talking about the gauntlets. it seems as if you argue against her without knowing anything about her.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Your argument is weak. A long dead Galaxy would mean no Stars. No energy. It is much easier to crumble a barren rock than one teaming with life, plant life, and heat. The mass is even affected. The feat was also shared.

really? by your analogy, a slab of say granite with no life growing on it is easier to smash than a slab of granite with moss growing on it?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
well duh! Thor's a viking.

no, i haven't seen him use a bow and arrow either, but why would he? he's got a hammer that he can thor, project lighting with, shoot out some kind of energy blast etc

he has used a sword iirc

no, he doesn't have to block multiple projectiles as he can either dodge em, spin his hammer to block em, or simply tank em

He's been knocked out by a bullet piercing his skin before. Tank them? ???

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
really? by your analogy, a slab of say granite with no life growing on it is easier to smash than a slab of granite with moss growing on it?
inherent flawed reverse attempt. A galaxy with suns and energy signatures, gravity wells, is much harder to disrupt and destroy than a galaxy with no stars and barren rocks. Over simplification to justify your argument only proves mine further.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't know, but it matters not. He always has his hammer. Thor is not Thor without his Hammer.

ah, now here's something. how can you say that thor is not thor without his hammer?

is it he hammer that makes thor, or is it thor that makes the hammer?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
He's been knocked out by a bullet piercing his skin before. Tank them? ???

then they don't have comparable durability. WW far outclasses him. he is even worse than luke cage

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman has never broken her shield. ever. Superman Red sun was a whate if else worlds story. And her shield has never been broken. We aren't talking about the gauntlets. it seems as if you argue against her without knowing anything about her.

-Bracers wont help
-I think the shield broken after Superman attack her though it could have been her Bracers. I will try to find it

Originally posted by Warlord
then they don't have comparable durability. WW far outclasses him. he is even worse than luke cage
I call it a low showing that with reason just means they hurt him but he's not not feeling them. Which is why he spins the hammer to block them.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
inherent flawed reverse attempt. A galaxy with suns and energy signatures, gravity wells, is much harder to disrupt and destroy than a galaxy with no stars and barren rocks. Over simplification to justify your argument only proves mine further.

no, its much harder to destroy a dead galaxy than it is to destroy a live one.

to destroy live galaxies, one only needs to target the stars/suns. the resulting reactions would in turn destroy most of the planets revolving around the suns/stars

without the suns/stars, one would have to project more force/energy to have the same effects.

Originally posted by Warlord
then they don't have comparable durability. WW far outclasses him. he is even worse than luke cage

Personally, I have been taking the "median" approach to this -- Diana's improved invulnerability (while a point I have tried to convey to people) is a "recent" thing of the past decade. Conceptually, she and Thor are comparable in durability in the long view of their characters, and I have no problem giving him the benefit of the doubt in this regard...

... though a number of people have problems giving Diana the same regard in term comparable physical ability... but with some people, if they don't know, you can't tell'em... 🙂

oh come on...he can stand inside the sun unharmed but bullets can hurt him?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
-Bracers wont help
-I think the shield broken after Superman attack her though it could have been her Bracers. I will try to find it
You are wrong and no amount of finding out is going to make you right. The bracers nor the shield has ever been broken. The bracers wont' help? I'm putting you on ignore. You are arguing with no know of one character. At least have the basics of both covered.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
no, its much harder to destroy a dead galaxy than it is to destroy a live one.

to destroy live galaxies, one only needs to target the stars/suns. the resulting reactions would in turn destroy most of the planets revolving around the suns/stars

without the suns/stars, one would have to project more force/energy to have the same effects.

No. I'm sorry. You are taking the approach that one would take the time to target individual stars. they didn't have time to do that. They destroyed long dead galaxies. Long dead. do you know what happens to stuff when it's long dead? It loses energy. loses cohesiveness. dries up. crumbles. frail. Please, refute this. you can't.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I call it a low showing that with reason just means they hurt him but he's not not feeling them. Which is why he spins the hammer to block them.

much can be said about wonderwoman, imo, she blocks bullets coz she can and coz they hurt.

unlike superman, who has a freaking bio aura, can't feel em at all.

by the way current thor is now clearly portrayed as bullet proof

Originally posted by xJLxKing
-Bracers wont help
-I think the shield broken after Superman attack her though it could have been her Bracers. I will try to find it

It wasn't her bracers...

As a point of DC canon, *no* power in the Post-Crisis universe has violated the power of the Aegis, post-mythic ages, even Darkseid's Omega Effect...

... Superman came close at one point, a number of years ago, in the battle where he broke her arm (not wrist, but arm), as Diana had commented herself that she could feel their power almost giving, but they didn't...