Originally posted by tideoftimeWasn't that when Circe amped him by turning him into a doomsday superman hybrid?
It wasn't her bracers...As a point of DC canon, *no* power in the Post-Crisis universe has violated the power of the Aegis, post-mythic ages, even Darkseid's Omega Effect...
... Superman came close at one point, a number of years ago, in the battle where he broke her arm (not wrist, but arm), as Diana had commented herself that she could feel their power almost giving, but they didn't...
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoYou mean when he had the odin force and the other bullets where bouncing off of his armor?
much can be said about wonderwoman, imo, she blocks bullets coz she can and coz they hurt.unlike superman, who has a freaking bio aura, can't feel em at all.
by the way current thor is now clearly portrayed as bullet proof
Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. I'm sorry. You are taking the approach that one would take the time to target individual stars. they didn't have time to do that. They destroyed long dead galaxies. Long dead. do you know what happens to stuff when it's long dead? It loses energy. loses cohesiveness. dries up. crumbles. frail. Please, refute this. you can't.
I think the short-ish, clipped answers are not explaining to him the point that all the matter in a "dead" universe is all but dispersed -- their are no "hard" or "durable" substances left in a dead universe, as not only is the active energy in it exhausted, but the matter that composes it, itself, is loosing its cohesion and integrity. In the remnants of a planet in a dead universe, even we ordinary mortals would be able to crush formerly "indestructable" materials, as entropy affects all matter/energy...
(Let's not seque into Dark Matter and Dark Energy; that could take years to debate, as it already has in real life)
Plus, this line of conversation is a distraction, but I've noticed that is common on this forum, so...
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Wasn't that when Circe amped him by turning him into a doomsday superman hybrid?
Yes -- and thank you for adding clarification; I am not a fast typist, and you guys all post alot faster than I do 😮 So I was trying to keep up. I had two much longer posts (one of which I thought explained things pretty well) that has already gotten buried, seemingly...
But I'm trying! 🙂
Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. I'm sorry. You are taking the approach that one would take the time to target individual stars. they didn't have time to do that. They destroyed long dead galaxies. Long dead. do you know what happens to stuff when it's long dead? It loses energy. loses cohesiveness. dries up. crumbles. frail. Please, refute this. you can't.
that is true for organic compounds. tree's for example, when they die, changes, they begin to rot/decompose and their chemical composition changes. minerals on the other hand, like rocks, do not decompose nor rot. silver, 1 million years from now will remain silver and will still retain its atomic structure. hence, it would retain its physical characteristics.
in the same way, say earth, millions of years from now, we'd all be dead. the earth may also be dead. but its mineral composition, its crust, etc would remain the same. hence, its physical properties will still be the same.
whatever force needed to destroy the earth now, would still be the same force needed to destroy the earth when its dead. as its' structure remains the same.
prove that minerals and elements change composition and physical characteristics once all life dies, when the sun dies when all shit dies. you cant!
Originally posted by gogogadgetgowhen a galaxy dies, the strong forces, weak forces, magnetic forces, energy all lose their cohesiveness. It literally takes billions of years for a galaxy to die. That means EVERYTHING in it is crumbling.
that is true for organic compounds. tree's for example, when they die, changes, they begin to rot/decompose and their chemical composition changes. minerals on the other hand, like rocks, do not decompose nor rot. silver, 1 million years from now will remain silver and will still retain its atomic structure. hence, it would retain its physical characteristics.in the same way, say earth, millions of years from now, we'd all be dead. the earth may also be dead. but its mineral composition, its crust, etc would remain the same. hence, its physical properties will still be the same.
whatever force needed to destroy the earth now, would still be the same force needed to destroy the earth when its dead. as its' structure remains the same.
prove that minerals and elements change composition and physical characteristics once all life dies, when the sun dies when all shit dies. you cant!
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
that is true for organic compounds. tree's for example, when they die, changes, they begin to rot/decompose and their chemical composition changes. minerals on the other hand, like rocks, do not decompose nor rot. silver, 1 million years from now will remain silver and will still retain its atomic structure. hence, it would retain its physical characteristics.in the same way, say earth, millions of years from now, we'd all be dead. the earth may also be dead. but its mineral composition, its crust, etc would remain the same. hence, its physical properties will still be the same.
whatever force needed to destroy the earth now, would still be the same force needed to destroy the earth when its dead. as its' structure remains the same.
prove that minerals and elements change composition and physical characteristics once all life dies, when the sun dies when all shit dies. you cant!
Wow, dude. Your lack of understanding how physics works in the universe is telling. Organic life is *not* what will alter/"kill" the universe and its matter/energy in time, its the natural effect of entropy. Matter will continue to break down and disperse as billions and billions of years become trillions, with or without so much as a single cell of organic life needing to have ever existed. (Note: I don't think we should be being so literal, anyway, as this is comicbook land, where story/symbolism is more important in anycase, but still...)
But as I posted further up, this line of debate is a distraction...
Originally posted by tideoftime
I think the short-ish, clipped answers are not explaining to him the point that all the matter in a "dead" universe is all but dispersed -- their are no "hard" or "durable" substances left in a dead universe, as not only is the active energy in it exhausted, but the matter that composes it, itself, is loosing its cohesion and integrity. In the remnants of a planet in a dead universe, even we ordinary mortals would be able to crush formerly "indestructable" materials, as entropy affects all matter/energy...(Let's not seque into Dark Matter and Dark Energy; that could take years to debate, as it already has in real life)
Plus, this line of conversation is a distraction, but I've noticed that is common on this forum, so...
dude, i never thought i'd say this, but you just made me appreciate h1a8...
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