Originally posted by SoulDevourerLook at him he's past the EH as if it matter being pulled out the EH is still a great feat considering what a Event horizon is. The light obviously coming out of the ship?
epic fail and for the writers too it looks like ANYTHIN cept light 😬(or maybe black light? 😂 )
she catch him just in time b4 he fall past the EH
what light? ^^
Originally posted by Zeuodin...and whats GIVING OF the light? yup if the FUEL (thats u know, matter).
Yes but the LIGHT is being pulled in. Light doesn't bend like that unless by a black hole. You did't know that? You don't see the LIGHT bending into the black hole?
the FUEL is bein pulled in, and the fuel gives of light wich is why we can see the fuel. easy peasy japanesy
Originally posted by iceman24567its the fuel from exaust, not pure light
Look at him he's past the EH as if it matter being pulled out the EH is still a great feat considering what a Event horizon is. The light obviously coming out of the ship?
i aint saying its no good feat (it IS) but its not "cosmic" like your sugestin
Originally posted by SoulDevourerActually it is cosmic. I studied black holes before I posted it. Light cannot escape a black hole once it is past the outer edge of the black hole. It is not destroyed until it gets to the singularity or event horizon. But the pressue on the outer edge is already billions of times greater than that of the center of a regular star. Fuel does not give off light in outer space as it is immediately cooled by the absolute zero temps. The light is exactly what it is. Light from the engines. also if you look carefully the block hole is drawn light blue so that we the readers can see the black hole. MM was IN the hole. as shown by him being very near the shaded area which is the event horizon. He's in the hole. Were light cannot escape.
...and whats GIVING OF the light? yup if the FUEL (thats u know, matter).
take fire, u think the light come outa nowhere? lolthe FUEL is bein pulled in, and the fuel gives of light (so we can see the fuel). easy peasy japanesy
its the fuel from exaust, not pure light
hes only inside the vortex. the EH is where the black part begins. even Zeudoin gonna tell u this (since he study black holes 😛)i aint saying its no good feat (it IS) but its not "cosmic" like your sugestin
Originally posted by SoulDevourerYou obviously have no clue whats going on in the scan he is past the EH
...and whats GIVING OF the light? yup if the FUEL (thats u know, matter).
take fire, u think the light come outa nowhere? lolthe FUEL is bein pulled in, and the fuel gives of light wich is why we can see the fuel. easy peasy japanesyits the fuel from exaust, not pure light
hes only inside the vortex. the EH is where the black part begins. even Zeudoin gonna tell u this (since he study black holes 😛)i aint saying its no good feat (it IS) but its not "cosmic" like your sugestin
Originally posted by iceman24567o so whats the black part then? another EH? 😂
You obviously have no clue whats going on in the scan he is past the EH
Originally posted by Zeuodinhes visibel and he aint in the black part so he aint in the black hole (hes damm near tho)
Actually it is cosmic. I studied black holes before I posted it. Light cannot escape a black hole ones it is past the outer edge of the black hole. It is not destroyed until it gets to the singularity or event horizon. But the pressue on the outer edge is already billions of times greater than that of the center of a regular star. Fuel does not give off light in outer space as it is immediately cooled by the absolute zero temps. The light is exactly what it is. Light from the engines. also if you look carefully the block hole is drawn light blue so that we the readers can see the black hole. MM was IN the hole. as shown by him being very near the shaded area with is the event horizon. He's in the hole. Were light cannot escape.
fuel dont give of light? (actualy it does cuz freezins never instantanous, so theres a short trail. and the hotter gas the longer trail). funny though, wheres the "artistic licence" argument now? 😛
if u wanna go that way, alrite then u cant SEE "engine light" either, unless your right behind it. its like lasers, their invisible unless pointed @ you
so if we can see the light then it means it aint pure light, its only matter @ high temp givin of light 😄
Originally posted by SoulDevourerI'm not going to argue with you any more. The scan clearly shows Superman unable to resist the pull without the Aid of GL. It shows Light being pulled in. It shows MM past the outer edges of the BH. It shows Wonder Woman's Muscle Flexing. She's using Super strength for a cosmic level Strength feat.
o so whats the black part then? another EH? 😂 hes visibel and he aint in the black part so he aint in the black hole (hes damm near tho)fuel dont give of light? (actualy it does cuz freezins never instantanous, so theres a short trail. and the hotter gas the longer trail). funny though, wheres the "artistic licence" argument now? 😛
if u wanna go that way, alrite then u cant SEE "engine light" either, unless your right behind it. its like lasers, their invisible unless pointed @ youso if we can see the light then it means it aint pure light, its only matter @ high temp givin of light 😄
Originally posted by tideoftimeHe was lying as he said she could easily ward off Thor's lightning. The funny thing was you came along and showed how simple electricity affected her.
He isn't lying -- he exaggerated. Diana is resistant to electricity, and it doesn't affect her nearly to the degree that it would affect lesser metahumans, but she is affected by it more so than Superman, or Captain Marvel, for example.(See, Zeuodin? I warned you about hyperbole... watch the absolute statements. Despite largely agreeing with you on this general topic, I am *not* a WW fanboi as quanchi alledged me to be -- just very knowledgable about her as a character, and how she has evolved and been reinterpreted over the past 7 decades, and am more than willing to acknowledge her limitations as they are. Unfortunately, others are not will to acknowledge her strengths in equal turn, but oh well...)
Originally posted by ZeuodinSo you want to disregard all of Thor's feats and use shared feats with characters stronger than WW?
I'm not going to even respond to this because you are using Thor's hammer as strength feats. You are using hyperbole from a comic in the 60's when it's clear that they didn't knock the planet out of orbit. Etc. and then you say the Spectre feat doesn't count because it was shared with superman but turn around and say HERCULESE AND THOR generated force enough to knock the planet out of orbit. You see how completely biased and silly that is. The post failed. Do better.
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Originally posted by Zeuodinit does. it dont. it dont. it does. shes not 😱
I'm not going to argue with you any more. The scan clearly shows Superman unable to resist the pull without the Aid of GL. It shows Light being pulled in. It shows MM past the outer edges of the BH. It shows Wonder Woman's Muscle Flexing. She's using Super strength for a cosmic level Strength feat.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
This entire argument was a misnomer. In the end, we are talking about strength feats. Thor often softens up his opposition with the hammer before he goes on to use his fist. Which means they were softened up by the hammer first. mechanics do play a part. Even Thor knows this. when he broke the celestial's skull he swung his hammer round and round to build up speed and momentum. If mechanics didn't play a part, he would have just punched it as you are suggesting. Oh and Superman has already held a book with infinite pages. So the feat seems pretty much on the same vein as when he held the Spectre's form. The feat for Herc and Thor is one of strength and durability and also shared. The shock waves destroyed the plateau they were on. Good. the planet didn't get rocked off of it's axis.
Heh.
Yes, and I'm mentioning strength feats, which you seem to want to ignore for some damn reason or disqualify as they piss on your entire theory that Wonder Woman is as strong as Thor which is just that, a theory. Wonder Woman is not on Thor's level in strength.
No, not really. Seeing for example when he fought Tyr, he had an enchanted Mace created by Odin, along with a shield as I recall, and only got hit once or twice. He then says Thor relies on his hammer too much and got put down in a hit, because he pushed Thor too far.
Mechanics barely play a part if any at all depending on the writer. He sometimes shown to hit just as hard without Mjolnir, and at times his shown to hit a bit hard with Mjolnir than with his fists. The damage would be a very insignificant depending on the instance.
And then you have the instance, where Thor breaks through Celestial Armor in a single hit. No swinging, or spinning evolved at all.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials1.jpg
Like I said, baseless.
Oh you mean when Superman and Captain Marvel while flying were able to support the book? Thor being able to resist infinite weight on his own impresses me more than either feat.
As well, the feat seems more understanding related than strength related. Ultraman was able to lift it alone when he understood it as I recall. Clearly more than physical forces were in play.
Heh, and then you have you using Wonder Woman's instance with the Spectre as a feat, when it was shared between three people and complaining about it being shared. I don't see why, as the force their strength was generating had enough power to knock the planet off it's axis.
So what? The Universe didn't collapse in that Spectre incident. And don't give me none of that divine bullshit. What do you think Thor and Hercules are.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
any feats with the hammer do not count. It is more than strength at play. you can try to up play thos feats and down play dianas all day long she is as strong as thor is. And thir is not as strong as superman period.
Just because you say they do not count, doesn't mean they don't count. Mjolnir does not amp his strength. The only advantage Mjolnir adds is mechanical. He has shown the fact that he can hit just as hard without it as he can with it. Heck, there's evidence suggesting that he can hit even harder such as his fight with Tyr, and other beings. Of course it's been shown he hits harder with it, at times, but even then, the difference isn't significant at all. It's insignificant in fact. So you trying to dismiss all the feats that Mjolnir is present, is just stupid. Heck, even the entire argument that Mjolnir is extremely durable so it would do more damage doesn't fly when you look at how Thor's fared against Uru (Albeit Uru that was not enchanted as Mjolnir is.).
Oh and exactly what else than strength is in play, pray tell?
Christ you are desperate. Again with this making up bullshit. I am not trying to "up play" Thor's feats. I have not done such. I have even posted a great deal of scans of his feats and I am not downplaying any of her feats. I love the fact that you ***** and moan about downplaying when you in the same post try to simply dismiss all of Thor's feats when Mjolnir is present which is baseless really.
Stop with the denial. Thor is stronger than Wonder Woman and as strong as Superman or at least has comparable strength and rivals him. He has superior strength feats to her, and strength feats to match his.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Look at the pic Carefully. GL creates some kind of Anchor to space and tethers himself. He is holding on To Superman with it. As Superman is being pulled in. The light from the jets are being pulled in. MM is in the hole. Past the outer edges. It's a phenominal Strength feat for Wonder Woman.
superman was shown to be being pulled in, but then ww goes, go take care of evil dude, then suddenly, WOOOSHHHH! superman goes flying off like no ones business.
so, if he was being pulled in, how the hell did he go flying off like that?
also, that's a stupid anchor for gl
looks more like falling into the hole but didnt.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
any feats with the hammer do not count. It is more than strength at play. you can try to up play thos feats and down play dianas all day long she is as strong as thor is. And thir is not as strong as superman period.
any feat with the lasso do not count. it is more than strenght at play, you can try to up play those feats and down play thor's all day long he is stronger than wonder woman. and thorr is at most as strong as superman period
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