batman vs shang chi

overall bats is arnold in feats and val is a baby in diapers and deathstroke is an anx teen when you measure their feats

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
overall bats is arnold in feats and val is a baby in diapers and deathstroke is an anx teen when you measure their feats

Yeah thats kinda my point. I could be wrong but Batman may have better feats than Deathstroke. What happened when they fought? Deathstroke kicked his arse (Batman put up a good fight though).

No common sense is being applied to the debate. Shang wins the slight majority.

I don't really know Shang so well but Bats did hurt Grundy in hth (granted it was Loeb writing but still it was explained due to pressure points).

Anyway Shang is Master of Kung Fu.
But Bats is master of much more styles.
Plus he is more clever.

Could go either way but I think Bats can take him down.

Originally posted by comicfan11

Anyway Shang is Master of Kung Fu.
.

Thats just a title he knows Western martial arts as well. Anyway Kung fu is actually massive and has loads of different styles.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats just a title he knows Western martial arts as well. Anyway Kung fu is actually massive and has loads of different styles.

Yes but Batman also knows Kung Fu.
I don't see a clear advantage for Shang.
Just my opinion.

Originally posted by comicfan11
Yes but Batman also knows Kung Fu.
I don't see a clear advantage for Shang.
Just my opinion.

He doesnt know Kung Fu as well as Shang and Shang doesn't just know Kung Fu. I see Shang as being enhanced as well as skilled and therefore Shang wins.

Sure no problem (no sarcasm by the way).

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He doesnt know Kung Fu as well as Shang and Shang doesn't just know Kung Fu. I see Shang as being enhanced as well as skilled and therefore Shang wins.

Sure no problem (no sarcasm by the way).

Batman is said to be a master of nearly every martial art on earth.
It's stated and shown.
So how can you say that Shang is better (though he might be)?

I mean is there any proof?
The advantage Shang has is his chi stuff but Bats has done that on occasions and has hurt metas in hth.

The thing is that I believe many people give Shang the win because that's what he does. He is only a martial artist.

On other hand they think that Bats is somewhat a jack-of-all-trades so he has to lose to someone that excels at Kung-Fu.

Thing is Bats excels at MA and a ton other things.
That doesn't make Shang a better fighter at all, but a less versatile superhero.
IMO of course.

iirc batman's bio states he knows over a 124 MA styles........ and he did all this in his early mid 20's and became batman in his late 20's early 30's.... hhmmmm

Originally posted by comicfan11
Batman is said to be a master of nearly every martial art on earth.
It's stated and shown.
So how can you say that Shang is better (though he might be)?

I mean is there any proof?
The advantage Shang has is his chi stuff but Bats has done that on occasions and has hurt metas in hth.

The thing is that I believe many people give Shang the win because that's what he does. He is only a martial artist.

On other hand they think that Bats is somewhat a jack-of-all-trades so he has to lose to someone that excels at Kung-Fu.

Thing is Bats excels at MA and a ton other things.
That doesn't make Shang a better fighter at all, but a less versatile superhero.
IMO of course.

Hes smashed a Doombot with his bare hands. Punisher had to use armour pierecing shells from a heavy duty mounted machine gun to kill one.

Hes has nedgated one of Hirioms punches. Hiriom is a character like Iron Fist who can mystically channel chi. His chi punch has been shown to be stronger than Iron Fist's and he sent Luke Cage flying 100's of ft away with a punch.

Hes also fought Paladin who Captain America fought in the same circumstances and did better than him due to some breathing techniqe. Both Brubaker and Busiek think Cap is more formidable than Batman. If Shang can better than Cap in some aspects hes gonna be better than Batman.

Hes also done this..

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/?action=view&current=MarvelComicsPresents158b-16.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/?action=view&current=MarvelComicsPresents158b-17.jpg

Batman can't do that. It doesn't make him less versatile becuas like I said he knows other styles as well. I dont know about the other styles but hes most likely better than Bats at Kung Fu.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes smashed a Doombot with his bare hands. Punisher had to use armour pierecing shells from a heavy duty mounted machine gun to kill one.

Hes has nedgated one of Hirioms punches. Hiriom is a character like Iron Fist who can mystically channel chi. His chi punch has been shown to be stronger than Iron Fist's and he sent Luke Cage flying 100's of ft away with a punch.

Hes also fought Paladin who Captain America fought in the same circumstances and did better than him due to some breathing techniqe. Both Brubaker and Busiek think Cap is more formidable than Batman. If Shang can better than Cap in some aspects hes gonna be better than Batman.

Hes also done this..

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/?action=view&current=MarvelComicsPresents158b-16.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/?action=view&current=MarvelComicsPresents158b-17.jpg

Batman can't do that. It doesn't make him less versatile becuas like I said he knows other styles as well. I dont know about the other styles but hes most likely better than Bats at Kung Fu.

Quite impressive but why would Batman only use Kung-Fu?
Shang knows more styles than just Kung Fu but certainly not as many as bats.
Plus Bats has impressive feats also as mentioned with most notable the Grundy example and the knowledge of a technique that can KO opponents with a touch (not even a punch)

Shang-Chi, he's not called the Master of Kung Fu for nothing.

batman, he's not the master of kung fu and over a 100 other styles for nothing.

Originally posted by namorsubby
batman, he's not the master of kung fu and over a 100 other styles for nothing.

True, but do you think Batman is capable of stalemating Spider-Man and destroying a Doombot with his barehands like Shang-Chi?

Knowing more styles does not mean you're the better fighter, which is why we use feats.

Knowing more martial arts styles does make one a better fighter, because you become a more flexible fighter. I mean just take a look at MMA it is not called mixed martial arts for nothing. Who has the more favorable odds a master of one style or a master of many?

Originally posted by Magneto1982
True, but do you think Batman is capable of stalemating Spider-Man and destroying a Doombot with his barehands like Shang-Chi?

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Knowing more martial arts styles does make one a better fighter, because you become a more flexible fighter. I mean just take a look at MMA it is not called mixed martial arts for nothing. Who has the more favorable odds a master of one style or a master of many?

MMA master: "lets see now, wut style am i gonna use to block this one? ..."

*PUNCH*

too late 😄

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Knowing more martial arts styles does make one a better fighter, because you become a more flexible fighter. I mean just take a look at MMA it is not called mixed martial arts for nothing. Who has the more favorable odds a master of one style or a master of many?

I didn't think I needed to differentiate the difference, but it appears I must.

IN COMICS knowing more styles does not mean you're the better fighter, which is why we use feats.

Knowing more style in mma doesn't make you the better fighter either, but that is irrelevant here.

Batman stomps Chi.

Hard.

off course comics and real world do not mix however

Originally posted by Mindset
Knowing more style in mma doesn't make you the better fighter either, but that is irrelevant here.

Originally posted by Mindset
IN COMICS knowing more styles does not mean you're the better fighter, which is why we use feats.

Ok it is because of the martial arts that these characters are able to do their feats because if they did not know any martial arts then there would not be any feats for us to go by.

In comics knowing more styles does not mean you're the better fighter this could not be more true however there is always a reason why this person beats that other person not matter how rediculus it might be.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
*fist incoming*

MMA master: "lets see now, wut style am i gonna use to block this one? ..."

*PUNCH*

too late 😄

come on mann....show some restraint... 🙂