batman vs shang chi

Man, where have you been? Haven't seen you since 05.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich

Ok it is because of the martial arts that these characters are able to do their feats because if they did not know any martial arts then there would not be any feats for us to go by.

I'm with Shang Chi in this one. Throw in gadgets and the edge goes to Bats, but Shang Chi's even more focused on martial arts than he is and fights all kinds of tough foes.

Not by a lot, but edge to Chi.

Originally posted by Q99
I'm with Shang Chi in this one. Throw in gadgets and the edge goes to Bats, but Shang Chi's even more focused on martial arts than he is and fights all kinds of tough foes.

Not by a lot, but edge to Chi.

shang chi stomps if its HAND 2 HAND

Originally posted by Mindset
Did you not understand my post at all?

In comics it does not matter how many martial art style a combatant knows; in battle it becomes irrelevant but their feats however are not. Is this what you are trying to convey?

You choose to ignore the martial arts styles that they know and focus solely on their feats. I on the other choose not to ignore their martial art styles because I use it to justify their feats.

Originally posted byTha C-Master
Man, where have you been? Haven't seen you since 05.

I have been around 🙂

Originally posted by lifeisaglich

You choose to ignore the martial arts styles that they know and focus solely on their feats. I on the other choose not to ignore their martial art styles because I use it to justify their feats.

It's feats or nothing, how could it be any other way?

so by your logic if i know muay thai karate and brazilian jiu jitsu and i fight someone who know also tae kun do and judo he will be the better fighter just because he knows more styles? thats a very invalid thing to say because it depends on our skills and how we can aply them and how WELL do we know our styles who sayed batman knows them to the highest levels? how many years of training does he have? who said he perfected every style he knows? a yellow belt in karate also clasifies as someone who knows karate so what? its all about the skills and shang chi is the better fighter

bats

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
In comics it does not matter how many martial art style a combatant knows; in battle it becomes irrelevant but their feats however are not. Is this what you are trying to convey?

You choose to ignore the martial arts styles that they know and focus solely on their feats. I on the other choose not to ignore their martial art styles because I use it to justify their feats.

A fighter can know 100 styles and be beaten by someone that only knows one if said fighter has more impressive feats.

Originally posted by Assassin_boy
so by your logic if i know muay thai karate and brazilian jiu jitsu and i fight someone who know also tae kun do and judo he will be the better fighter just because he knows more styles? thats a very invalid thing to say because it depends on our skills and how we can aply them and how WELL do we know our styles who sayed batman knows them to the highest levels? how many years of training does he have? who said he perfected every style he knows? a yellow belt in karate also clasifies as someone who knows karate so what? its all about the skills and shang chi is the better fighter

What if the person you are fighting also know muay thai karate and brazilian jiu jitsu on top of this, this person also knows tae kun do and judo who do you think has the advantage?

Off course skill also apply but do you think it is wise to underestimate the skill level of someone who knows what you know and some other stuff that you might not know?

who said batman knows them to the highest levels? It is said that Batman is master of all forms of martial arts. Is there a level higher than master? Even chang chi is describe as has being a master of kung fu.

I belief batman to be the better fighter because he knows what chang chi knows and alot more.

Originally posted by Mindset
I choose to debate based on evidence, which is their feats.

A fighter can know 100 styles and be beaten by someone that only knows one if said fighter has more impressive feats.

Ok that means there is always a condition, for a person who knows less to beat someone who knows more. which is what I said a long time ago. We are on the same page but on different paragraphs.

*sigh*

Batman
Shang Chi is touted as one of Marvels top fighters, but has never beaten any hand to hand fighters on Batmans level

batman

Batman > Shang Chi in h2h feats, powers and abilities.

sources: over 5000 issues of 616 + Post Crisis on Multiple Earths DC Canon.

Originally posted by Samurai_X
Batman
Shang Chi is touted as one of Marvels top fighters, but has never beaten any hand to hand fighters on Batmans level

Is Daredevil above or below Batman's level? The reason I ask is because Shang-Chi was able to hold his own against Ghost Maker, yet Daredevil wasn't. That says a lot of Shang-Chi's skill as a fighter.

Shang-Chi

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Shang-Chi

Originally posted by Starscream M
marvel biased as usual lol

fallowing me around and attacking my posts as usual are we?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes clearly it because I am bias and not becuase Shang-chi a chi amper who can give him self significant stat advantage against an opponent who is already posses comparable MA skills to.

fallowing me around and attacking my posts as usual are we?

batman is a toptier fighter of his universe

you've always shortchanged batman for some reason