Originally posted by OneDumbG0Not quite able to discern what your position is on this, but in IMHO, it's not fair to use Doom's inability to contain Beyonder's power as support for the congruence between Thanos handling THOTU and Akhenaten taking 1000 years to handle a fraction of THOTU. Due to Beyonder's actions right before sending him back to Secret Wars, Doom was missing a fair portion of his memories and this resulted in him being "incomplete." As Beyonder was about to restore the memories, Molecule Man and the Cube Beings intercede and they and Doom all confirm that given another chance, Doom would be able to handle Beyonder's energies:
So correlating Doom's original performance with Beyonder's energies (where he's handicapped) and Akhenaten's performance (a normal ancient Egyptian schlub) and comparing them to Thanos' ability to acclimate to THOTU immediately is a bit of a forced comparison.
None of those scans confirm
that Doom would be able to handle a partial Cube being's power (what Doom stole)
According to MM only Doom thought he would be able to handle it.
MM, Kubik and Shaper made no assertions as to whether that was true or not:
"you were incomplete, just as you were when you tried to sustain his power before,
but I can see that once you have a complete mind,
you expect you'll know how to do it right."
You can't say Doom would be able to contain Beyonder's power in FF#319,
and somehow relate that to the power he couldn't contain in Secret Wars.
Secret Wars Beyonder is Pre-Retcon Beyonder,
while FF#319 Beyonder, is the Retconned-severely Depowered version.
In fact, if we take into consideration FF#319,
Beyonder is below The Living Tribunal and Eternity:
Beyonder also got stomped by Kubik, a Full-Cube Being
In fact, he was a HALF-Cube Being, so Doom stole a HALF-Cube Being's power,
and of course, with the surrounding stipulations that helped him achieve this goal.
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Also, according to FF#319 once can easily come the conclusion,
that Doom was actually allowed to take Beyonder's power,
by Beyonder's own un-conscious will, according to MM:
"you still don't understand desire, if you had understood,
there would have been no Secret Wars.
As a tiny portion of the Beyonders' force,
you un-consciously wanted to satisfy others' desires"
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This whole scenario is ridiculous,
(due to DeFalco's hate to retcon Beyonder, forcing Englehart to write a stupid story)
because Doom's mind wasn't incomplete,
heck, that wasn't even 616 Doom in SSI, not a fragment or any part of any kind.
Doom's complete mind, not a part, but all, was chillin in McArthur's body
back in the 616 Reality.
While the Doom in SSI on Battleworld (a completely separate/different Universe)
was a Doom from the Future,
who did not exist there, since well, Doom's body was dead, and his mind was in another's body.
This again leads back to Beyonder himself coercing Doom's feat,
like,
if it were not for Beyonder
literally replacing Doom 616 with his alternate non-existent future-self,
Doom 616 would have had absolutely nothing to do withy stealing B's power.
Yea, after the fact,
after the feat was completed by the Future Doom that never was,
then Beyonder (later in the future)
replaces Doom 616's history with the one that stole his power,
NOW making Doom 616 the culprit,
but before that, 616 Doom had nothing to do with stealing B's power.
That's a fact.
Furthermore, in fact,
In Marvel comics, if you're situated in the future,
then you're from another Timeline, (alternate future) That's it.
Beyonder plucked Secret Wars Doom from the future, (another Timeline)
While 616 Doom was left on Earth 616, chillin with McArthur's wife:
This is why
616 Doom never saw, or met the Beyonder until the Beyonder was retconned:
(this is YEARS after SSI or II)
It's right there in plain english!