Siege: Invasion of Asgard [ Disscssion Thread]

Started by Digi63 pages

The rules concerning spoiler tags have been posted for a long time now, and are as follows:

Originally posted by Digi
[b]2. Spoilers should under no circumstances be posted in thread titles. Further, any spoilers in the thread should use spoiler tags. If you don't know how to use spoiler tags work, use the reference below:

[ spoiler ] text [ / spoiler ]
...minus the spaces between brackets.

3. Repeated failure to use spoiler tags will result in moderator action. While it is a lesser infraction than many others on the forums, and will be judged as such, it will not go unpunished. Do not report individual instances, simply talk to the individual about changing it, but please do so if it becomes a recurring problem. [/B]

As it pertains to Kris, not only did they become intentional spoilers for the sake of trolling, but it was in addition to his long record of warnings and temp bans for various transgressions. Occasional or accidental spoilers are entirely different. The intent to troll is not present.

Further, I have no particular liking or dislike for any member, regardless of forum history. Nor does any mod that I know well enough to speak for, including the ones that have dealt with Kris in the past and the mod who banned him permanently this time. Claims of bias need to be removed from the discussion, because they are baseless accusations and pointless to drag out.

Any comments/questions/concerns should be directed to me or one of the other mods via PM. Thank you.

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On a less official note: someone mentioned both sides being somewhat right, and I would concur. The venom needs to be removed from the issue, because some common sense on either side will correct 99% of the problem. I'm quickly growing tired of both rampant non-use of spoilers, as well as the complaints I receive from multiple posters about those who probably aren't intentionally posting them (this current incident notwithstanding). We're not going to warn/ban everyone who posts a spoiler in a thread, so there will always be some risk in reading on the forums. Understand this, then participate respectfully.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So it's common sense to not expect common courtesy, instead of saying: "No, common courtesy should be expected at all times."?

Even so, you're right, common courtesy to not post spoilers is rare. Hence, it's a rule. Still people ignore it. Thus, bannings.

Why is that hard?

I'll complain any time someone ignores the rules and it causes me the huge inconvenience of having comics I travel to buy, and wait for, ruined.

-AC

All I'm saying is its also your fault if you keep coming back here when you've had multiple experiences with spoilers and how these forums are. Sure they should put in spoiler tags but if you know that its happened even after all your complaining then its also a little bit your fault. You know doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't work is madness. Also stop clogging this thread with your complaints.You are really derailing this thread. If you have to send them a PM and do try be a little less confrontational about it.

Lets not discuss this anymore. lets get back on topic...I don't know about you guys but I'm kind of underwhelmed by this event from the getgo...Its no Blackest Night. for the big Marvel earth events for while it feels like often enough that its too actiony without more story and what not.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
All I'm saying is its also your fault if you keep coming back here when you've had multiple experiences with spoilers and how these forums are. Sure they should put in spoiler tags but if you know that its happened even after all your complaining then its also a little bit your fault. You know doing the same thing over and over when it doesn't work is madness. Also stop clogging this thread with your complaints.You are really derailing this thread. If you have to send them a PM and do try be a little less confrontational about it.

Lets not discuss this anymore. lets get back on topic...I don't know about you guys but I'm kind of underwhelmed by this event from the getgo...Its no Blackest Night. for the big Marvel earth events for while it feels like often enough that its too actiony without more story and what not.

agreed. I can half forgive it because of the art this issue. The problem is that bendis does not know how to craft an event despite the fact that he keeps getting so many chances. I think the problem is he reveals all his cards before his events take place which in turn leave no room for shock. He failed with secret invasion because he basically told the whole story in the first three issues which let it linger for the rest. He aims to correct that with siege (I applaud hes trying to correct his mistakes) but hes run into a new problem. With SI there was never a deep story to begin with so it became tedious after a while. With Siege its the opposite. Theirs so many deep themes going on that its a real shame hes skipping them. This is a battle that involves a symbol of justice vs a tyrant, (cap vs osborn) fathers vs sons, brother vs brother, and the reuniting of the heroes for the first time in years. He also has the breakdown of two main characters who psyches are already on a downward spiral. Basically he screwed up for opposite reasons this time. In SI he tried to drag out a shallow story but with Siege hes crunched a deep one.

Honestly now after what just happened to in Siege 2 I'm hoping Thor goes Warrior Madness in 4 and

Spoiler:
wrecks Sentry for killing Ares along with that whole side for what they are doing to Asgard.
Just my own little personal wish.

Thats not even a spolier. 😬 Then again maybe it is.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats not even a spolier. 😬 Then again maybe it is.
I put it in the spoiler tags only for the
Spoiler:
Sentry killing Ares part
the rest is jsut wishful thinking.

Actually I wouldn't mind all of a sudden all of the Asgardians going into some Warrior Madness/god unleashed mode and start tearing people apart.

who brb will make an appearance

i think sentry will realsie he's become eveil and undo all the wrongs

perhaps even ressurect Ares

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No he just bitches and acts condescending until people get tired of it and stop talking to him.


Thats how I feel about that *******. While I agree about the spoiler tags, it's the way he goes about it.

He is consistently rude, disrespectful and condescending towards many members. His venomous ruins the board. Not because he's disrespectful but he will continue on and on and on to make the point across he's better than anyone.

That said, rude, disrespectful and antagonizing behaviour should be police as much as spoiler tags.

Just my two cents on the matter. BTW, I got him on ignore because I cant stand his attitude.

As for Siege, I wonder if little Phobos will be the one to take out Sentry. Even though i'm looking forward to a Thor/Sentry showdown.

Well...

Turns out I was right. Amazing issue and I honestly don't see why people here had such a massive problem with things that happened in it.

Spoiler:
Ares could never have done anything more to Sentry, and the manner in which he died was perfect for showing how far he has gone into becoming a maniac
.

I don't get why people are complaining that it's too action-orientated; it follows Dark Reign. Dark Reign was all the story set-up.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Thats how I feel about that *******. While I agree about the spoiler tags, it's the way he goes about it.

He is consistently rude, disrespectful and condescending towards many members. His venomous ruins the board. Not because he's disrespectful but he will continue on and on and on to make the point across he's better than anyone.

That said, rude, disrespectful and antagonizing behaviour should be police as much as spoiler tags.

Just my two cents on the matter. BTW, I got him on ignore because I cant stand his attitude.

As for Siege, I wonder if little Phobos will be the one to take out Sentry. Even though i'm looking forward to a Thor/Sentry showdown.

You can't stand my attitude, but you'll talk about me. I don't even recognise your screen name.

The thing is, I've never actually said: "I'm better than anyone.". I've never said any variation of that, or that quote itself, with any degree of sincerity. I've been here since July '04 and I have never once made any kind of claim akin to that, yet lots of people think it. So, I'm flattered, but knock it off. It's dry and old. Also, no, "You present yourself that way/come across that way." isn't true, nor is it the same.

No one person can "ruin" the board. If I'm such a ruination, pur me on ignore. Oh, you have. You have me on ignore and yet you're sitting there bitching about me, just like The Nuul and just like WD. Thus, I'm reporting you for that, and for flaming me. Ignore me or don't, you can't have it both ways.

-AC

^ Stop talking about the $$$$ing spolier tags for $$$$ sake! facepalm

Yeah, some people just argue just for the sake of arguing. It's absurd

AC, would you please stop telling people you have reported them and so forth, and just do it without feeling the need to crow about it. You have become complicit in prolonging this argument. Cut it out and post only on-topic.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
AC, would you please stop telling people you have reported them and so forth, and just do it without feeling the need to crow about it. You have become complicit in prolonging this argument. Cut it out and post only on-topic.
Why would he? The last time he threw a tantrum about something and reported one of the people involved, it got them banned.... Despite the blatant insults he threw out at multiple people which quite frankly should have earned him some kind of disciplinary action (I'm mainly referring to the statement he made in regard to hoping Kris's car caught on fire, etc.)

Heh.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Why would he? The last time he threw a tantrum about something and reported one of the people involved, it got them banned.... Despite the blatant insults he threw out at multiple people which quite frankly should have earned him some kind of disciplinary action (I'm mainly referring to the statement he made in regard to hoping Kris's car caught on fire, etc.)

Please don't make further posts of this kind. If you have an issue, take it to PM. This thread has been sabotaged enough.

My apologies, no offense was meant. Just think it's an odd turn of events is all.

I'll stop though. 👆

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well...

Turns out I was right. Amazing issue and I honestly don't see why people here had such a massive problem with things that happened in it.

Spoiler:
Ares could never have done anything more to Sentry, and the manner in which he died was perfect for showing how far he has gone into becoming a maniac
.

I don't get why people are complaining that it's too action-orientated; it follows Dark Reign. Dark Reign was all the story set-up.

I agree on the action stuff and complaining about. I have generally enjoyed this so far.

Although with everything not everything is going to be exactly as I pictured it.

I'm honestly hoping the Asgardians show to be more than spider-man level types. Though we haven't really seen just how well or bad the Asgardians are fairing right now. Of course we also don't know if they have employed their magics yet or their magical artifacts. I haven't seen the Destroyer on the battlefield yet. Hence my idea that I would like for them to go god unleashed almost like Bor did.

Spoiler:
As for Ares the way he went out was violent, how he lived, climatic in the sense that I really felt for him at that moment, and I can honestly say that I understand not wanting to prolong and waste panels on a fight where everyone already knew the end. Still a part of me really wanted the God of War to go out with more of an oomph against Sentry than the moral victory of barely wounding him. Especially for me cause I really enjoyed the push Ares was getting as a heavy hitter since his Mini so many years back.

Still have enjoyed this work event so far and can't wait to see where it goes.

I agree on the action stuff. This story has been set up through multiple titles for months. Siege is the part where the gloves come off and everything comes full circle. I am loving Norman Osborn and the Sentry at this point along with Thor and his never retreat, never surrender attitude. Love the dark avengers but like most great things I am glad it's going to end soon. Less is always better imo.

I can't remember the last time I looked forward to a story like this.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't give a shit what you were angry about.

I actually waited a month to find out who dies, no matter how "obvious" everyone said it was, and now you've literally trashed it. I have to wait until Siege #3 for an unspoiled issue now.

Well done.

This is why I push for the rule and it still isn't stuck to. I frequent many other boards and the members are always way more respectful with spoilers. Mind you, most of those other boards contain people who buy their comics, so the concept of wanting to wait isn't entirely foreign to them.

-AC

crybaby

In any event is this worth picking up?