John Preston vs. Riddick

He's also got that ill defined Wrath of the Furyans thing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And those guys were mere humans, highly trained badass humans, but humans nonetheless. They were trained the same as Preston apparently, so he knows their capabilities.

Riddick against Irgun. Riddick is unarmed, Irgun attacks, Riddick, evades, takes the knife from Irgun's back, and kills him with it.

Riddick, he knew shit about the Necros, he went up against them and pwned in epic proportions. I cannot find a youtube vid of it, but Riddick killed at least 40 Necromongers in a couple of minutes (I just watched the scene.) That trumps any feat Preston has to offer.

Necromongers are obviously superior to humans, Faako lifts one human over his head like a rag doll. Superior strength. And they are harder to kill. Remember the scene where the Necros are attacking New Mecca? That one Necro, the one who thrust the staff in the ground, it took several shots to take him down. And the Necro who had the knife in his back? He wasn't slown down, not even a little bit. Add the fact that they wear heavy armor and Riddick still mowed them down like they were nothing, yeah, put Preston in that situation and he gets pwned.

More proof Necros are superior to humans? When that inmate tackled Faako, Faako spun at him like a ninja and killed him by lifting him over his head, as if he weighed nothing, and broke his back.

So, Riddick killed 40ish Necros in one sitting, while Preston killed 4 or so clerics in one sitting. Necros are superior than and harder to kill than humans. Do the math, Riddick is the better killer of the two, unless Preston has his guns. Riddick pwns Preston with blade, h2h, any scenario where Preston has no guns. To deny this is to ignore screen feats, which Riddick pwns Preston in. Throw in Riddicks FAR superior physical attributes, and you've got one dead cleric. Faster, stronger, far more resistant to pain, superior in every imaginable way.

Well, I think you are looking at it a little out of whack. Your statements make it seem that because there are no necros in the Equilibrium-Verse, that makes Riddick the more obviously talented - because he's killed them.

Tell me, do any humans kill a Necro? If so, than your whole argument is moot.

As for the better killer comment, in The Chronicles of Riddick, Riddick kills 67 people.

In Equilibrium, John Preston kills 118 people. Just putting some perspective on it.

A Necro can be as strong as shit, as your evidence states, but it's pointless if your opponent is more skilled in fighting and is faster. I havent seen a Necro kill anyone as quickly and efficiently as Preston has throughout the entire movie.

Preston in both.

Good idea as Riddick is pretty badass, but that isn't enough to cut it against a Cleric 😛

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Originally posted by Quincy
Well, I think you are looking at it a little out of whack. Your statements make it seem that because there are no necros in the Equilibrium-Verse, that makes Riddick the more obviously talented - because he's killed them.

[b]Tell me, do any humans kill a Necro? If so, than your whole argument is moot.

As for the better killer comment, in The Chronicles of Riddick, Riddick kills 67 people.

In Equilibrium, John Preston kills 118 people. Just putting some perspective on it.

A Necro can be as strong as shit, as your evidence states, but it's pointless if your opponent is more skilled in fighting and is faster. I havent seen a Necro kill anyone as quickly and efficiently as Preston has throughout the entire movie. [/B]

Whacked how? You are missing my point. Lets say, for arguments sake, that Necros and clerics are on the same level. Preston killed like 4 in one sitting, while Riddick killed over 40 in one sitting.

Yes, a necro is killed by a human, the one who thrusts the staff in the ground on new Mecca, he is killed by several humans. Point?

The better killer WITH A BLADE is Riddick, how many did Preston kill with a blade? Under 10 throughout the movie, if I remember correctly, he killed the majority of them with his guns.

So no Necro killed as fast as Preston, so what? Point is Riddick killed far more Necros than Preston killed clerics with a blade, and he did so faster and more efficiently than Preston did.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whacked how? You are missing my point. Lets say, for arguments sake, that Necros and clerics are on the same level. Preston killed like 4 in one sitting, while Riddick killed over 40 in one sitting.

Yes, a necro is killed by a human, the one who thrusts the staff in the ground on new Mecca, he is killed by several humans. Point?

The better killer WITH A BLADE is Riddick, how many did Preston kill with a blade? Under 10 throughout the movie, if I remember correctly, he killed the majority of them with his guns.

So no Necro killed as fast as Preston, so what? Point is Riddick killed far more Necros than Preston killed clerics with a blade, and he did so faster and more efficiently than Preston did.

But they're not, which is the point. A Grammaton Cleric is far superior to a Necromonger. Head and shoulders above.

Preston is/was a total bad-ass with a sword. His Katana would also give him a considerable edge over Riddick's knife. This is enough to offset Riddick's super-human abilities.

IMO, Riddick get's his face cut off.

Originally posted by Robtard
But they're not, which is the point. A Grammaton Cleric is far superior to a Necromonger. Head and shoulders above.

Preston is/was a total bad-ass with a sword. His Katana would also give him a considerable edge over Riddick's knife. This is enough to offset Riddick's super-human abilities.

So Preston has a longer blade. Preston attacks, Riddick blocks with one blade, then guts Preston with the other.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So no Necro killed as fast as Preston, so what? Point is Riddick killed far more Necros than Preston killed clerics with a blade, and he did so faster and more efficiently than Preston did.

Actually, no, Riddick did not kill faster and more efficiently that Preston, with his blades. The exact opposite is true. That's what we've been trying to get across to you throughout several posts.

Not only is Preston better with a bladed weapon, he's so good at it that he can even start withOUT a bladed weapon and still slay more people per second, than Riddick can while starting WITH a blade.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Far superior? If you mean highly trained and better at killing, I agree, but Necros are harder to kill. Riddick killed more Necros with a blade than Preston did with a blade, it's simple math. 40 plus killed versus 4-5 killed. What is being done here is like comparing Marv from Sin City (Riddick) to McClane (Preston.) McClane is uber badass, but pit him against Marv h2h and Mac gets pwned.

So Preston has a longer blade. Preston attacks, Riddick blocks with one blade, then guts Preston with the other.

When those superior skills make you nigh-impossible to hit, I'd wager that would translate into the "harder to kill" category.

I could easily script out a fight where Preston guts Riddick, so doing that is pointless. Blocking a katana with a knife isn't that easy. Fact remains, a katana is far superior vs a knife in an open fight.

Someone asked for Preston's feats, here's a few of them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENh3sQuOmf8

Edit: LOLZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY&feature=related LOLZ <-- unrelated, but funny.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Not only is Preston better with a bladed weapon, he's so good at it that he can even start withOUT a bladed weapon and still slay more people per second, than Riddick can while starting WITH a blade.

To further the point, there are multiple scenes where Preston starts weaponless and destroys mother****ers with a combo of hand attacks and using his opponents weapons against them. So there's a chance he could use Riddick's knives against him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
40 plus killed versus 4-5 killed.

That's not accurate, now is it?

YouTube video

Seems that Preston takes out quite a bit more than 4 or 5 in that final sword fight scene...and in just mere seconds.

8(9?) guys in 12 seconds, starting off with no weapon of his own. That's one death every 1.5 seconds.

Right, I miscounted. Still, 8 to 9 guys in seconds compared to Riddick killing 40 plus Necros just as fast, with SHORTER blades, BONG, trumped. Not to mention Preston is a king shit cleric, he knew their training, he knew how they would react, while Riddick took on the Necros not having a clue as to their methods.

Originally posted by Robtard

Edit: LOLZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY&feature=related LOLZ <-- unrelated, but funny.

AHMEHGAWD. crylaugh

why are they screaming so much? 😂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Right, I miscounted. Still, 8 to 9 guys in seconds compared to Riddick killing 40 plus Necros just as fast, with SHORTER blades, BONG, trumped. Not to mention Preston is a king shit cleric, he knew their training, he knew how they would react, while Riddick took on the Necros not having a clue as to their methods.

Riddick didn't kill that many that fast, dude.

Cleric's are superior fighters. Necros are shit, with the exception of a few with notable skills/talent. For the most part, they're brainwashed civilians from conquered planets. Their weapons are also slow.

So Preston both kills faster, kills more lethal opponents and does so often without a weapon(s) of his own. Put THAT in your bong and smoke it.

i remember a scene where riddick like threw his knives in the air backflipped over a necromonger punched him/used the necros weapon in his hand against him then still managed to catch the knives before they hit someone else. so thats still pretty fast all things considering. not faster than preston but fast enough to kill 9/10 guys in a short amount of time.

You also have to take into account that Riddick was on a completely dark planet fighting flying animals that pretty much all they did was kill things that weren't them. Well, until the things that weren't them ran out.

Originally posted by Robtard
Riddick didn't kill that many that fast, dude.

Cleric's are superior fighters. Necros are shit, with the exception of a few with notable skills/talent. For the most part, they're brainwashed civilians from conquered planets. Their weapons are also slow.

So Preston both kills faster, kills more lethal opponents and does so often without a weapon(s) of his own. Put THAT in your bong and smoke it.

Preston killed by OSPing a sword, so what? Riddick improvised a shiv from the wreckage in Pitch Black and pwned with it. He also entered the Necro ship unarmed, killed one of the Lord Marshalls best, and strolled out.

And if you watch Chronicles, yes, there are clips from the fight scene on Crematoria where Riddick kills even FASTER than Preston. AND he was under energy weapon fire the entire time. The first time Preston swings his sword, Riddick is gonna counter, rush in, and break his neck.

Ask yourself this, what if Preston had been surrounded by 45 clerics instead of the 8-9? AND they were all firing on him AND attacking with swords?

Bottom line is that Riddicks onscreen feats with a blade are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY superior too Prestons with a blade. Think about that a second, take a reality pill and get back to me.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i remember a scene where riddick like threw his knives in the air backflipped over a necromonger punched him/used the necros weapon in his hand against him then still managed to catch the knives before they hit someone else. so thats still pretty fast all things considering. not faster than preston but fast enough to kill 9/10 guys in a short amount of time.

Riddick: 45 kills.

Preston: 9 kills.

Do the math, people.

i dont think it was 45 by himself though remember kara and those other two guys who had escaped with him were there fighting too.