John Preston vs. Riddick

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bullshit. What we have here is two guys (DDM and Rob) who would rather swallow glass than admit they are wrong. And now that they have been proven wrong/pwned, they are upset about it and saying it isn't fair.

Just the opposite, actually. We've been debating this logically the entire time (such as Robtard calculating kills per second, me correctly defining "surrounded", etc.) When your points were soundly shot down, you had an epiphany, or something, and wanted to use the very much contradictory feats from Dark Fury. You even involved a mod when it wasn't necessary. Logic should have prevailed and this resolved as soon as I posted that it won't be used. (based on reasons I out-lined.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Never, and I mean never ever, have I seen either of you two admit defeat or that you are wrong.

This is factually incorrect. I've admitted being wrong multiple times, in IM, with you alone. On otop of this, I've admitted fault, incorrectness, etc. about a dozen times on KMC. Don't believe me, just do a search.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You were wrong all through this thread, going with the character you wanted to win, ignoring the FACT that Riddick is ten times the fighter and man that Preston could ever hope to be.

Admit defeat. Accept the pwn.

And this is where the divergence occurs: we've proven Riddick to be not only less skilled, but also slower with less endurance. Your only reply has been "nuh uh." That's not the proper way to debate.

Originally posted by Robtard
DDM and I have both brought forth evidence. Riddick moving at blurring speeds (like the Flash) etc. The abilities do not flow with what is seen in both live films, not even close.

And that's just one aspect of the difference between the Dark Fury Riddick and the live action Riddick.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Just the opposite, actually. We've been debating this logically the entire time (such as Robtard calculating kills per second, me correctly defining "surrounded", etc.) When your points were soundly shot down, you had an epiphany, or something, and wanted to use the very much contradictory feats from Dark Fury. You even involved a mod when it wasn't necessary. Logic should have prevailed and this resolved as soon as I posted that it won't be used. (based on reasons I out-lined.)

This is factually incorrect. I've admitted being wrong multiple times, in IM, with you alone. On otop of this, I've admitted fault, incorrectness, etc. about a dozen times on KMC. Don't believe me, just do a search.

And this is where the divergence occurs: we've proven Riddick to be not only less skilled, but also slower with less endurance. Your only reply has been "nuh uh." That's not the proper way to debate.

Whoa whoa whoa, less endurance? haermm

Oh man my sides crylaugh

Reach reach reach, onscreen feats show Riddick having the endurance of ten Prestons, same with durability and strength.

And yes, a mod was necessary because you were trying to break the rules because you got pwned HARD. The mod stepped in and made the correct call, and you don't like it. *hands you a tube of Preparation H*

I said it before, this time it's for real, I am outta here. Nothing left to say really, Riddick pwns Preston 10/10, 7 days a week, in any scenario. 😄 FACT.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whoa whoa whoa, less endurance? haermm

Oh man my sides crylaugh

We've been over this already. You haven't provided a rebuttal and instead, reply with things like you did above.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Reach reach reach, onscreen feats show Riddick having the endurance of ten Prestons, same with durability and strength.

Durability and strength, yes. Not endurance.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And yes, a mod was necessary because you were trying to break the rules because you got pwned HARD.

You still didn't provide a rule, which doesn't exist, that states I broke it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The mod stepped in and made the correct call, and you don't like it. *hands you a tube of Preparation H*

I don't think so, Tim:

I never made a ruling of any kind.

Originally posted by dadudemon
We've been over this already. You haven't provided a rebuttal and instead, reply with things like you did above.

Durability and strength, yes. Not endurance.

BTW, marathons are 26.2 miles, so Riddick ran close to a damn marathon before fighting the Necros. Please provide a Preston feat that comes remotely close to this. You cant.

Pwned.

You still didn't provide a rule, which doesn't exist, that states I broke it.

7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

Pwned.

I don't think so, Tim:

Originally posted by Impediment
My opinion is that Dark Fury is canon.

Need I say anything else?

Pwned.

I love facts, facts are good. 🙂

As for speed, well, when Riddick was fighting the Lord Marshall, he was able to track him, you can see Riddick following his movements, and eventually he started to block the Lord Marshall's attacks and even counter with some of his own.

And the Elemental, Aereon, on New Mecca, when she appeared in Imman's house, Riddick had his blade waiting for her, at her throat, even before she materialized beside him.

Speed.

In a straight up fight, if all else fails, Riddick can use Wrath of the Furyans.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I certainly have, read on for more epic Pwnage.

You certainly haven't other than "he's faster."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Riddick running across the planet of Crematoria, 30 clicks (about 20 miles), and then tearing through 45 plus Necros trumps any endurance feat Preston showed.

BTW, marathons are 26.2 miles, so Riddick ran close to a damn marathon before fighting the Necros. Please provide a Preston feat that comes remotely close to this. You cant.

Pwned.

Simply, Riddick got worn out towards the end of his adventure.

He got worn out with his fight with the Marshall. 😄

At no point does Preston show getting worn down. 😄

Pwned.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

Pwned.

I see nothing in there that says you have to chose between a live-action version or an exaggerated cartoon version. Also, no one argued the cartoon version at all until you brought it up. Only one person mentioned it (and I missed that) in passing. Everyone else intelligently ignored it.

Pwned.

Also, Imp himself has had to make qualifying statements in one of his own versus threads, many posts in to it. It's simply impossible to account for everything. What he said there is more of a suggestion. If he sees an effort was made, he has always allowed the thread. If you REALLY want to be an ass about it, Imp can close this thread and I can make a new one and we can start over with almost the same exact opening post. 😐

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[Pwned.

I love facts, facts are good. 🙂

I know. I wish you would adhere to them. Imp never said he made a deicsion. Calling it canon and allowing it in a vesus fight are not the same thing. Which is why he made the statement that he hasn't made a decision yet. Pwned. Also, this type of attitude is what got your post deleted earlier.

Now, if you REALLY want to use Dark Fury feats, you must prove that they do not exceed Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick feats. If you can't, then they can all be thrown out as PIS. They were there simply for that cartoon being interesting and fit the style, just like Imp said.

Originally posted by KingD19
In a straight up fight, if all else fails, Riddick can use Wrath of the Furyans.

You know what?

This thread was over a looooong time ago.

If DDM wants to make another thread, then, by all means, do so.

You whiney babies ought to use the MVF Social Thread more often to avoid stupid shit like this. That is why I made such a thread.