Originally posted by Impediment
So why wouldn't the animated version of Riddick be considered canon?
Because it's a ridiculous exaggeration of his abilities from the movies, super-speed (like being a blur) being one of them.
Peter Chung took the character his own way. This Riddick could destroy everyone in Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick and Equilibrium combined.
theres no argument either way for it being not canon because it is, factually, canon. the creator of the riddick character contributed to the movie as well as the writers of the live action films.
the dispute is that riddick's fighting abilities are vastly superior to his abilities in the live action movies. from what i understand robtard and whoever else thinks that the feats he performs in the cartoon should be void in a debate because theyre inconsistent with the live action feats.
it isnt really a question (imo) of which movie is more canon so much as which of the type of movies is a more accurate and credible portrayal of riddicks abilities.
imo because dark fury is the newest addition to the canon and the creators of the franchise never stated that it is a simple exxageration it should overwrite the older canon but that is just my opinion. im sure other people have different views.
EDIT- robtard beat me to the punch. so what he said. xD
Originally posted by RobtardDavid Twohy wrote the story, dude.
Because it's a ridiculous exaggeration of his abilities from the movies, super-speed (like being a blur) being one of them.Peter Chung took the character his own way. This Riddick could destroy everyone in Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick and Equilibrium combined.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
theres no argument either way for it being not canon because it is, factually, canon. the creator of the riddick character contributed to the movie as well as the writers of the live action films.the dispute is that riddick's fighting abilities are vastly superior to his abilities in the live action movies. from what i understand robtard and whoever else thinks that the feats he performs in the cartoon should be void in a debate because theyre inconsistent with the live action feats.
it isnt really a question (imo) of which movie is more canon so much as which of the type of movies is a more accurate and credible portrayal of riddicks abilities.
imo because dark fury is the newest addition to the canon and the creators of the franchise never stated that it is a simple exxageration it should overwrite the older canon but that is just my opinion. im sure other people have different views.
EDIT- robtard beat me to the punch. so what he said. xD
That'd make [some] sense, except Dark Fury takes place between Pitch Black and Chronicles.
So he somehow become super-duper powered after PB and then lost it in Chronicles. No.
Silly to include something that was done as a clear over-the-top for no other reason than it looking cool in anime. That and Peter Chung is Asian.
Originally posted by Robtard
That'd make [some] sense, except Dark Fury takes place between Pitch Black and Chronicles.So he somehow become super-duper powered after PB and then lost it in Chronicles. No.
Silly to include something that was done as a clear over-the-top for no other reason than it looking cool in anime. That and Peter Chung is Asian.
all very possible ✅
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Also, here:Page 2. You had a chance there to disallow Dark Fury, but you didn't. That's two chances you had, so yeah, it's out of your hands. Impediment will decide if he supports you breaking MVF rules #7.
That's why I asked if the cartoon was allowed WAY back there. Look at the nastiness this has caused.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Twohy wrote it, it is canon to the movies, thats all that matters. Impediments decision now, give it a rest.
You didn't answer my question.
I don't care what the decision is, I am done with the 'who would win' aspect of this thread, I also already said Anime-Riddick would destroy all a page or two back.
not really ❌
anime riddick isnt live action movie riddick.
theres no reason to assume that live action riddick is the more canon of the two though. how do you know anime riddick isnt how the creators truly envision him to be? whereas the live action version is scaled down to appeal to the audience more ala lord of the rings halo and star wars?
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
not really ❌anime riddick isnt live action movie riddick.
theres no reason to assume that live action riddick is the more canon of the two though. how do you know anime riddick isnt how the creators truly envision him to be? whereas the live action version is scaled down to appeal to the audience more ala lord of the rings halo and star wars?
Because there is no reason to "scale down". There's also two movies depicting him as mildly super-powered and then one direct to DVD anime where he's the ****ing Flash. 2 > 1.
Also see 'common sense'; apply it.
My opinion is that the director of the anime film portrayed Riddick in such a manner as to make the film more visually enjoyable. That, and it's an animated film, FFS. He's a bad ass in the live action films, why not make him the same way in an anime film, but in an animated fashion?
Am I wrong?
Remember, I have only seen Pitch Black, and none of the other films.
Should I watch these other two films? Are they like Pitch Black? I liked it, TBH. I give it an 8.5.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because there is no reason to "scale down". There's also two movies depicting him as mildly super-powered and then one direct to DVD anime where he's the ****ing Flash. 2 > 1.
2 > 1? is that the best you can come up with at this point? how do you know there is "no reason to scale down"? are you the director? no youre not. you have no idea why they may have decided to do it and i notice that youve conveniently ignored my examples of characters being powered down twice now. in all three instances there is "no reason to scale down" that you and i can see but the writers had it done anyway because they wanted to, because they felt that showing the character as strong as they think he actually is might not go over well in the release. im getting tired of repeating myself and seeing your replies which have every single time so far not even bother to address what im actually saying and basically amount to a "nuh uh".
Also see 'common sense'; apply it.
i have not insulted you once i have not spoken to you in an aggressive or disrespectful way so why do you feel the need to berate me and make implications and accusations toward me in your posts? for one thing this is an internet forum and a discussion nothing more nothing less and these little statements do not contribute to the topic at all. secondly im not your daughter or your wife and im not going to tolerate comments from some guy i will never meet simply because he feels the need to be an ******* on the internet. if you feel that you absolutely cannot have a discussion with me without attacking my intelligence then we simply we wont be talking. its nothing personal i think youre an alright guy but i dont like being told that i lack common sense by someone who cant even address all the points of my post and cant even bother to reply to posts that he either can not or doesnt feel like replying too. if you think you can handle having a discussion with me like an adult then say so otherwise... im done.
Originally posted by Impediment
My opinion is that the director of the anime film portrayed Riddick in such a manner as to make the film more visually enjoyable. That, and it's an animated film, FFS. He's a bad ass in the live action films, why not make him the same way in an anime film, but in an animated fashion?
I agree and this is what I've been saying. Dark Fury is badass, but it's a damn cartoon that has a specific artistic portrayal than the live action version.
I already clarified.
I didn't see Blinky's post waaaay back when. I thought everyone would ignore the exaggeration fest from Dark Fury.
Originally posted by dadudemonIrrelevant. It is a feature film, it is canon to the series, and Twohy wrote it. Thats all that matters. It being anime and exaggerated means nothing.
I agree and this is what I've been saying. Dark Fury is badass, but it's a damn cartoon that has a specific artistic portrayal than the live action version.I already clarified.
I didn't see Blinky's post waaaay back when. I thought everyone would ignore the exaggeration fest from Dark Fury.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
2 > 1? is that the best you can come up with at this point? how do you know there is "no reason to scale down"? are you the director? no youre not. you have no idea why they may have decided to do it and i notice that youve conveniently ignored my examples of characters being powered down twice now. in all three instances there is "no reason to scale down" that you and i can see but the writers had it done anyway because they wanted to, because they felt that showing the character as strong as they think he actually is might not go over well in the release. im getting tired of repeating myself and seeing your replies which have every single time so far not even bother to address what im actually saying and basically amount to a "nuh uh".i have not insulted you once i have not spoken to you in an aggressive or disrespectful way so why do you feel the need to berate me and make implications and accusations toward me in your posts? for one thing this is an internet forum and a discussion nothing more nothing less and these little statements do not contribute to the topic at all. secondly im not your daughter or your wife and im not going to tolerate comments from some guy i will never meet simply because he feels the need to be an ******* on the internet. if you feel that you absolutely cannot have a discussion with me without attacking my intelligence then we simply we wont be talking. its nothing personal i think youre an alright guy but i dont like being told that i lack common sense by someone who cant even address all the points of my post and cant even bother to reply to posts that he either can not or doesnt feel like replying too. if you think you can handle having a discussion with me like an adult then say so otherwise... im done.
I'm giving you reasons why it's logical to think that the anime is nothing more than an exaggeration of his powers.
Wasn't being disrespectful, am saying just apply common sense to what is seen. 1st film he has mild powers. 2nd film he has mild powers. 3rd anime film (which takes place between 1&2) he has super-duper powers. Do you really think it's logical that this direct to DVD anime overwrites the actual films?
Neither of us know what the directors had in mind, so until they come in here and tell us why Riddick wasn't using his super-speed and sleuth of other uber abilities he had in the anime in the other two films, we can only apply logic and common sense.
P.S. Calm down.