John Preston vs. Riddick

MVF rules #7, dude:

7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts.

Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay.

You failed to specify which version of Riddick we can use here in the FIRST FEW POSTS OF THE THREAD. Too late to go back and clarify now.

Also, here:

Originally posted by Blinky
It's clear that Riddick would get a bunch of free glory-holes in a gun fight.

Can anybody post some you-tube clips of both fighting with blades? I'm too f*cking lazy to look. It's been awhile since I've seen any of the Riddick movies and a long-ass time since I've seen Equilibrium. Anyways are you guys counting that Riddick cartoon?

Page 2. You had a chance there to disallow Dark Fury, but you didn't. That's two chances you had, so yeah, it's out of your hands. Impediment will decide if he supports you breaking MVF rules #7.

I'll say this, Preston is a beast, but he's not to the point where Riddick can't hit him, and he's not to the point where Riddick can't react to his moves. In the end of Chronicles, the only reason the Lord Marshal survived is because of that whole, separate your soul, and it moves somewhere else, then you follow at super speed. And after Vaako steps in and he runs, Riddick is fast enough to catch the Lord Marshal. Prestons good, but not enough to put down Riddick.

Plus they're the wrath of the furyans abilitiy, which was shown off screen in Escape from Butcher Bay, and when Vaako shot Riddick. The result was an energy blast that knocked down every Necromonger near Riddick, and I think it killed a few of them.

well if were going to ignore canon than i say riddick wins both considering he has to be gimped to give preston a chance...

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well if were going to ignore canon than i say riddick wins both considering he has to be gimped to give preston a chance...

Not allowing an animation which is a clear over-exaggeration of the films doesn't count as a "gimping". Bringing it up now is nothing more than a sad effort to make Riddick win against a superior foe, which is a gimp towards Preston.

Riddick's clearly many times more powerful in the anime than he is in the movies, simply because animation allows for this. To prove this, he would has destrpyed the Lord Marshall in seconds, by himself, if he has the anime abilities.

all three of them are "films".

so how do you know the cartoon version doesnt show his real abilities whereas the live action movies gimp them because its harder to make those feats look believable in live action? because the live actions came first? thats not sound logic dark fury isnt any less canon than the other two movies are...

for the record i didnt watch the movie rj posted because im not watching any half hour movie in french... so please keep that in mind before you attempt to guess my intentions for brining up anything. i have no idea how amazing his actions are in the cartoon and this virtual fight doesnt mean anything to me. the only thing i have conflict with is ignoring established canon. you have no idea what the wirters and directors intended when they made riddick fight the way he did in the cartoon compared to how he did in the live action films so how can you possibly know for sure that the cartoon is inacuurate in its protrayels?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
all three of them are "films".

so how do you know the cartoon version doesnt show his real abilities whereas the live action movies gimp them because its harder to make those feats look believable in live action? because the live actions came first? thats not sound logic dark fury isnt any less canon than the other two movies are...

for the record i didnt watch the movie rj posted because im not watching any half hour movir in french... so please keep that in mind before you attempt to guess my intentions for brining up anything.

With SFX, Riddick could do anything on film. If Riddick was intented to move at super-speeds on film, they could have done this, along with anything else he did in the anime.

Bringing in the Dark Fury feats is nothing more than a last ditch effort, because Preston's points people brought up couldn't be countered.

I've watched the anime, that Riddick could solo Pitch Black Riddick, Chronicles Riddick, Preston, all the other clerics and The Lord Marshall without breaking a sweat. It's clearly an exaggeration for the sake of entertainment.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not allowing an animation which is a clear over-exaggeration of the films doesn't count as a "gimping". Bringing it up now is nothing more than a sad effort to make Riddick win against a superior foe, which is a gimp towards Preston.

Riddick's clearly many times more powerful in the anime than he is in the movies, simply because animation allows for this. To prove this, he would has destrpyed the Lord Marshall in seconds, by himself, if he has the anime abilities.

Doesnt matter, because DF is totally canon to the other two movies. It has the same characters, it is totally in sync with the movies.

Did you notice how in Pitch Black Riddick was badass, but in COR he was like uber badass? It's the same thing. Dark Fury was the first time he was shown fighting large groups of humans, so it was the first time we got to see him in that aspect. Also, Riddick pwned the Pitch Black aliens just as bad as he did the Dark Fury aliens.

Nothing sad about it, on the contrary, DDM doesn't want to include it because it buries Preston in Furyan shit. Too late to say Dark Fury doesn't count, MVF rules state this. If something from COR did the same, buried Preston, and DDM said he meant Pitch Black Riddick only, what then?

Originally posted by Robtard
[B]With SFX, Riddick could do anything on film. If Riddick was intented to move at super-speeds on film, they could have done this, along with anything else he did in the anime.

but it wouldnt look believable. 😬 if you dont believe me look at George Lucas and the clone wars cartoons. he came out and said that the way mace and yoda were fighting in the clone wars cartoons more accurately represented how he envisioned the jedi to fight but it would looked corny in a live action film. its a common problem for science fiction in the halo novels master chief can run half a kilometer in 19 seconds with a torn ankle and moves so fast that bullets move in slow motion to his eyes... according to bungie they felt that showing it that way in the games would ruin the experience and so even though that is how fast the chief actually moves hes dumbed down in the game for our enjoyment.

the point im making is that, no, they couldnt make him move that fast, or at least its very possible that they thought they couldnt and not mke him look cheesy.

Bringing in the Dark Fury feats is nothing more than a last ditch effort, because Preston's points people brought up couldn't be countered.

... why do you think this? why do you think i care that much?

I've watched the anime, that Riddick could solo Pitch Black Riddick, Chronicles Riddick, Preston, all the other clerics and The Lord Marshall without breaking a sweat. It's clearly an exaggeration for the sake of entertainment.

maybe. shrug the cartoon version of mace windu could solo all of the droids in the geonosis arena that he almost died against in the movies... but what he does in the cartoon is still canon. he canonically fought and destroyed an army of droids with his bare hands. what you and i say cant really change that 😬

Originally posted by Robtard
With SFX, Riddick could do anything on film. If Riddick was intented to move at super-speeds on film, they could have done this, along with anything else he did in the anime.

Bringing in the Dark Fury feats is nothing more than a last ditch effort, because Preston's points people brought up couldn't be countered.

I've watched the anime, that Riddick could solo Pitch Black Riddick, Chronicles Riddick, Preston, all the other clerics and The Lord Marshall without breaking a sweat. It's clearly an exaggeration for the sake of entertainment.

If you are going to use the "exaggeration" argument, then I can rightly say that Prestons skils were greatly exaggerated in the final scene, as compared to his first fight with Taye Diggs. Saying Preston was "holding back" is a matter of opinion.

Whatever the case, Impediment will make his call later. If he decides not to include Dark Fury, then he is allowing DDM to break MVF rule 7, and is therefore giving him special treatment.

i dont think it matters that much because its ddm's thread so imo he should call the shots on what can be included not anyone else. if ddm says no then people should just move on...

For the record, the Clone Wars cartoons and the Dark Fury FEATURE FILM are completely different. The Clone Wars cartoons were made for TV, Dark Fury was made for DVD, it was meant to bridge the gap between Pitch Black and COR.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i dont think it matters that much because its ddm's thread so imo he should call the shots on what can be included not anyone else. if ddm says no then people should just move on...

Go ahead and shit storm a decent thread where both characters are fairly matched, having pluses and negatives.

It's telling though, that you bring in the anime (which is clearly an exaggeration, anyone can see that) now, since all you points have falling on their face thus far.

Very sad and childish.

may the great white jesus bless you robtard

Originally posted by Robtard
Go ahead and shit storm a decent thread where both characters are fairly matched, having pluses and negatives.

It's telling though, that you bring in the anime (which is clearly an exaggeration, anyone can see that) now, since all you points have falling on their face thus far.

Very sad and childish.

You want someone to ***** at? ***** at DDM for not being clear which Riddick to use. He wasnt specific, and when I brought in a version that would rape Preston, the two of you go apeshit and accuse me of being "childish."

Admit it, the only reason you want Dark Fury negated here is that it proves Riddick rapes Preston. As if Dark Fury is needed, I have proven without a doubt that Riddick wins here, you just dont like it.

You and DDM, I have never, not once, seen either of you admit when you are wrong. You are both wrong here. Couple of ****ing control freaks, I tell ya.

I really dont give a shit anymore, have the thread, have at it, I aint posting here anymore. Whatever decision Mattie makes, fine. Riddick rapes here, accept it.

Buh bye.

Jesus Christ on a cracker.......

What is the beef here, guys?

To be honest, I'm not much of a Riddick fan, so I won't be of much help without some insight from you guys.

Let me see if I get this right:

According to RJ, DDM did not clarify which version of Riddick is being used for this match, and, therefore, didn't cement the conditions of this fight, a la MVF rule #7, and is trying to change scenarios?

Or is the argument about not adhering to official canon?

Help me out here.

Originally posted by Impediment

Help me out here.

Don't bother, you've more important things to do than bother with this childish nonsense, like go about your life.

Basically, the 3 movies involving Riddick: Pitch Black, Dark Fury, Chronicles(In order). Are all part of the canon, however, DDM didn't specify that we could only use live action movies. It's six pages in, and only recently did DDM say Dark Fury couldn't be used, even though it was brought up in page 1 or 2.

Originally posted by Impediment
Jesus Christ on a cracker.......

What is the beef here, guys?

To be honest, I'm not much of a Riddick fan, so I won't be of much help without some insight from you guys.

Let me see if I get this right:

According to RJ, DDM did not clarify which version of Riddick is being used for this match, and, therefore, didn't cement the conditions of this fight, a la MVF rule #7, and is trying to change scenarios?

Or is the argument about not adhering to official canon?

Help me out here.

Originally posted by KingD19
Basically, the 3 movies involving Riddick: Pitch Black, Dark Fury, Chronicles(In order). Are all part of the canon, however, DDM didn't specify that we could only use live action movies. It's six pages in, and only recently did DDM say Dark Fury couldn't be used, even though it was brought up in page 1 or 2.

On the plus side, I was cleaning my crib and ran across a buncha old porn DVD's.

So why wouldn't the animated version of Riddick be considered canon?