Originally posted by Deadline
Its not faulty logic if he keeps having good feats against these opponents. That means hes really that good. Peoples showings don't always remain the same.The fact remains that within those 4 years hes improved alot. The whole premise of the new PWJ series is that Punisher is fighting superhumans and even Remender himself stated that he was basing Punisher on the classic version of Punisher. The classic version also has some of the best feats ever and could arguably beat DD as well.
Like I said I can give loads of examples.
Which isn't PIS because hes got other feats to back it up.
any normal man with NO enhancements whatsoever has no business holding his own against someone like daken.
no pheromones? or did he somehow resist them?
Originally posted by -Pr-
no pheromones? or did he somehow resist them?
He simply doesn't used them it would be retarded to assume he resisted them if you look on beings that were not able to resist them: Spider-man, Venom, Ares, Skaar (Skaar maybe resisted it, not really clear) and I think the list will grow in the next few months...
Originally posted by -Pr-maybe not, but once a character gets popular enough they'll start doing those things on a consistent basis, batman and wolverine take on characters they shouldn't be able too on a consistent basis, punisher is turning into one of those characters.
any normal man with NO enhancements whatsoever has no business holding his own against someone like daken.no pheromones? or did he somehow resist them?
anyway i think current punisher would win (frankencastle!) haha
correct it for you
Originally posted by Trackz
maybe not, but once a character gets popular enough they'll start doing those things on a consistent basis, batman and black panther take on characters they shouldn't be able too on a consistent basis, punisher is turning into one of those characters.anyway i think current punisher would win (frankencastle!) haha
You think Punisher takes the majority in h2h vs the more skilled fighter, with radar sense, who stronger, faster, better reflexes, far more agile........
Originally posted by Battlehammerthey've already fought and punisher proved he could hang with daredevil, and if you could read (which i'm doubting) you'd see i put frankencastle would win as a joke. read an entire post before attempting a retort.
correct it for youYou think Punisher takes the majority in h2h vs the more skilled fighter, with radar sense, who stronger, faster, better reflexes, far more agile........
Originally posted by Trackz
they've already fought and punisher proved he could hang with daredevil, and if you could read (which i'm doubting) you'd see i put frankencastle would win as a joke. read an entire post before attempting a retort.
As far as I know there is no book with him as Frankencastle out so he is, at this point, simply dead 😛
Originally posted by Trackz
they've already fought and punisher proved he could hang with daredevil, and if you could read (which i'm doubting) you'd see i put frankencastle would win as a joke. read an entire post before attempting a retort.
if i cant read how do I constantly read and prove your post incorrect?
your joke was lame
as most of your post are........ 🙄
Originally posted by DeadlineRight... because TM was arguing and clearly trying to fight back with everything he's got 😬 Just admit he was beaten and lets get this over with. And if you're gonna argue that Deadpool was going all out in his fight with Frank (like he CLEARLY was in his fight with TM) you're gonna need to come up with a better argment than him makingjokes during other fights.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7494/deadpool02p21.jpgLOL he wasn't on one knee until after he was punched but prior to that DP stopped to mock him. Obvoulsy you're assuming that Taskmaster was on his knees after DP kicked him in the face.
Oh please. Yes it does in both those examples DP stops to mock his opponent. Its not that hard to comprehend.
Originally posted by DeadlineDont even go there you know yourself its not true. Even if one doesnt want to kill his opponent he can still fight with everything he's got OR he can hold back a lot and not take the fight seriously and we both know when they fought it was the second scenario even though you refuse to admit it because it perfectly suits your theory about Frank being able to beat Daredevil "because he stalemated Deadpool".No you're the one making it complicated. Lets try this again. DP wanted to beat the crap out of him and its a fine line between wanting to beat the crap out of somebody and wanting to kill them. Using that logic all of Captain Americas fights are exempt..duh. See how that logic goes.
Originally posted by Deadlinelol let's next complain that comicbook characters can say a lot of lines in a mid-leap. Putting a stunned opponent on his knees, leaning towards him, mocking him and givving him the time to recover instead of beating the crap outta him is NOT the same as recovering from the fall, finding out that your opponent is still alive and starting to punch him in the face. That's a very weak argument man.
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LOL actually he did. Obvously before he said ONE he was mocking him and we could assume its not much longer than it takes to say "Looks whos got a broken nose."[/B]
Originally posted by Deadlinelol I showed you the one example during his fight with PUNISHER to prove a point. I can give you a dozen examples of Deadpool going all out against opponents even though he's not trying to kill them. His fight with Killmonger, Ironfist twice,Domino, Shatterstar heck there are DOZENS, yet you post a scan of Deadpool making jokes and somehow think that it proves that he was going all out in his fight with Punisher when it's obvious to anyone who's read the fight that he WASN'T going all out. And you keep avoiding two my main questions that would end this debate 1) Do you think Punisher = or > Deadpool and 2) Do you think the outcome of the fight would've been the same if Deadpool instead of mocking Punisher who according to your own statement was stunned just started pounding on him while he was on the ground?
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Even if that wasn't the case you only have one example. One example doesn't make a foregone conclusion, especially when ive shown you two examples of DP behaving like an idiot in serious fights.[/B]
Originally posted by DeadlineDeadpool almost broke Moonstone's hand and she's what? Class 70? 80? 100? Its not just about strength, breaking neck of a guy who's stunned and is not even resisting and from behind would be a walk in a park for a trained killer and it in no way disrespects Frank. It'd take a high level of superhuman durability to stand a chance.
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Um I dunno about that. Frank recovered pretty quickly and Tombstone whos stronger than DP tried to throttle him and failed. [/B]
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And guts. Guts'll get you far.
😂
or were you serious?
Originally posted by Trackz
maybe not, but once a character gets popular enough they'll start doing those things on a consistent basis, batman and wolverine take on characters they shouldn't be able too on a consistent basis, punisher is turning into one of those characters.anyway i think current punisher would win (frankencastle!) haha
punisher isn't either of those, though. i mean, it takes a long, long time to change a character so heavily.
Originally posted by -Pr-they turned deadpool into what he is in about two or three years. Punisher started back in civil war since then he taken on anti-venom, spiderman, sentry, x-23, deadpool, the hood, the scourge victims, and daken. I'm definitely missing some but he's definitely the next one if i had to take a guess, marvel's throwing him around everywhere so i wouldn't be surprised at all if we see him do things a normal human shouldn't. I mean look at what has happened to him in the passed year with his futuristic/alien weapons cache and now on top of that he's a super-zombie (or will be) marvel is definitely trying to make him a big player in the marvel universe.
😂or were you serious?
punisher isn't either of those, though. i mean, it takes a long, long time to change a character so heavily.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really becuase the majority of the time he gets stomp.....and by fight you mean put up a struggle and loses......so your statement with punisher take the majority disagrees with your conculosion that he win...try again I love watching you make a fool of your self.if i cant read how do I constantly read and prove your post incorrect?
your joke was lame
as most of your post are........ 🙄
there are other fights, it's clear DD is better, but punisher can hang with him, that was also before all his recent feats as well. Never did i say punisher would take the majority, once again i said frankencastle would as a joke, stop trying to be clever/witty because it's not working.
Originally posted by Trackz
they turned deadpool into what he is in about two or three years. Punisher started back in civil war since then he taken on anti-venom, spiderman, sentry, x-23, deadpool, the hood, the scourge victims, and daken. I'm definitely missing some but he's definitely the next one if i had to take a guess, marvel's throwing him around everywhere so i wouldn't be surprised at all if we see him do things a normal human shouldn't. I mean look at what has happened to him in the passed year with his futuristic/alien weapons cache and now on top of that he's a super-zombie (or will be) marvel is definitely trying to make him a big player in the marvel universe.
deadpool doesnt have the history punisher does, though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
any normal man with NO enhancements whatsoever has no business holding his own against someone like daken.
Hasn't Nightwing held his own against Deathstroke. Does Nightwing have enhancements? Please don't tell me hes not Nightwing...
Originally posted by -Pr-
no pheromones? or did he somehow resist them?
I don't think he did. Even without pheremones Daken is still very dangerous, and Punisher holding his own aginst Daken is still proof he could beat DD for the majority.
Originally posted by -Pr-punisher isn't either of those, though. i mean, it takes a long, long time to change a character so heavily.
Not if he has the feats to back it up.
Originally posted by Deadline
Hasn't Nightwing held his own against Deathstroke. Does Nightwing have enhancements? Please don't tell me hes not Nightwing...I don't think he did. Even without pheremones Daken is still very dangerous, and Punisher holding his own aginst Daken is still proof he could beat DD for the majority.
Not if he has the feats to back it up.
daken has pheromones and claws that cut through anything. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT scenario. also, nightwing is far more skilled than punisher.
maybe to you. i see it as PIS.
and what about all the times they've fought each other? those simply get tossed away?
