Originally posted by xJLxKing
Flash didn't do it on his own power. There were a lot of speedster giving him all their speedAs for SS, why would that matter. He views hi timeline, and Zoom ain't there.
Originally posted by Ambient
Were not talking about one timeline but all, if he exist then his there.. Speed would be irrelevant..
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay, that's still irrelevant. What's he gonna do in Zoom's timeline? Zoom has absolute control over his timeline. It's his! He controls how fast a second is, or how fast anything is.
It makes no diff. if he controls the speed it goes; first off he wouldn't know when Surfer would strike for him to control time reaction and second he still is within his timeline while Surfer is looking at him outside of time and can see every movements/adjustment he makes.. Surfer has a better plan of action while Zoom has blind plan of action..
Originally posted by Ambient
I meant its irrelevant outside time..It makes no diff. if he controls the speed it goes; first off he wouldn't know when Surfer would strike for him to control time reaction and second he still is within his timeline while Surfer is looking at him outside of time and can see every movements/adjustment he makes.. Surfer has a better plan of action while Zoom has blind plan of action..
Originally posted by xJLxKing
And I though I already proved to you that Though has a frequency and it travels at the speed of light, however, it doesn't matter. To Zoom, he can stop himself and kill while SS is frozen
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7814/flashv2200page09bc6.jpg
lol wut? thought frequency travelling at the speed of light? what are u even talking about?. Anyhow, SS has far faster thought and mental speed than a regular person so i dont know what ur even talking about (neither do u lol).
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3006/silversurfer199612206jx3.jpg
Here while travelling far far faster than light able to focus on,note the position of each of the billions and billions of stars that he passes and simulataneously use them to calculate his location. Also its notable that each of these stars appear as only a spark of light to SS and yet he is able to still perform such complex thought processes even after viewing each star for a miniscule amount of time.
He has also shown to completely comprehend a milleniums worth of information in milliseconds.
Further what is Zoom stopping himself in the timeline supposed to accomplish? Doesnt his speed come from moving ahead of the timeline? Ur strategy isnt a good one at all.
ANyhow with SS great mental speed, he will definitely be able to set up a forcefield before being koed which will be it for Zoom.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
So basically, you are saying that SS will get out of the battle field to plan his attack? Interesting. It's against the rules, but even then, he'd need time to do that
No time at all, he can release chronal omniblast near instantaneously city wide, its all the time he needs.. Heck for that matter it could potentially bfr Zoom..
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol wut? thought frequency travelling at the speed of light? what are u even talking about?. Anyhow, SS has far faster thought and mental speed than a regular person so i dont know what ur even talking about (neither do u lol).http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3006/silversurfer199612206jx3.jpg
Here while travelling far far faster than light able to focus on,note the position of each of the billions and billions of stars that he passes and simulataneously use them to calculate his location. Also its notable that each of these stars appear as only a spark of light to SS and yet he is able to still perform such complex thought processes even after viewing each star for a miniscule amount of time.He has also shown to completely comprehend a milleniums worth of information in milliseconds.
Further what is Zoom stopping himself in the timeline supposed to accomplish? Doesnt his speed come from moving ahead of the timeline? Ur strategy isnt a good one at all.
ANyhow with SS great mental speed, he will definitely be able to set up a forcefield before being koed which will be it for Zoom.
I do know what I am talking about.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980428032910data_trunc_sys.shtml
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/23027
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070809212215AAWWieZ
Btw, Zoom power is time, not speed
Yup kinda similar in the way Zooms powers work by moving in his own timeline outside actual time.. No time at all, he can release chronal omniblast near instantaneously city wide, its all the time he needs.. Heck for that matter it could potentially bfr Zoom..
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I do know what I am talking about.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980428032910data_trunc_sys.shtml
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/23027
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070809212215AAWWieZ
Btw, Zoom power is time, not speed
Further i dont know why u wont simply read the post ur replying to. If u did u would see that i mentioned that Zooms perceived "speed" is due to his moving ahead of the current timeline. Hence i know that his power is "time" not speed. I brought the point up in order to question ur nonsensical strategy of Zoom "simply stopping in the timeline and beating SS while he is frozen". Since Zooms perceived speed comes from moving ahead of the timeline, how in the world will stopping benefit him? Further i cant remember him ever stopping in his timeline and then attacking anyone while they were frozen. (why would they be frozen)?
Please stop with all these foolish replies. What are those links supposed to show? That the speed of human thought is 300milliseconds or? How is that relevant here? I have already shown evidence of SS greatly enhanced thought and processing speed and instead of making some form of rebuttal or reply in regards to that, u go about posting useless and irrelevant links showing the thought speed of a human being.
Further i dont know why u wont simply read the post ur replying to. If u did u would see that i mentioned that Zooms perceived "speed" is due to his moving ahead of the current timeline. Hence i know that his power is "time" not speed. I brought the point up in order to question ur nonsensical strategy of Zoom "simply stopping in the timeline and beating SS while he is frozen". Since Zooms perceived speed comes from moving ahead of the timeline, how in the world will stopping benefit him? Further i cant remember him ever stopping in his timeline and then attacking anyone while they were frozen. (why would they be frozen)?
Originally posted by Naija boy
SS doesnt need to physically react to Zoom. All he needs to do is mentally set up a forcefield before Zoom can knock him out. When the forcefield is up he uses an omnidirectional blast and that covers the battlefield (he is out to kill afterall). Zoom will be incinerated.Also there isnt sufficient evidence to surmise that Zoom hits harder than superman. Wonderwomans statement is not at all enough.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
All thought are the same, mine, yours, a tiger's, or anyone else, however the way you process them and stuff like that differs. my point still standsFlash and Zoom were fighting where time stood still
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/10/8uv0.jpg
Damn thats a nice scan of flash and Zoom.
Thats some Dragonball shit.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
In terms of speed, strength, and durability, Dragonball never reached the level
Why do you say that when you have feats of them fighting around debris and they fight so fast that the rocks thats was thrown in the air isnt even moving?
Lets not even forget the 5 minute fight that goku and frieza had that lasted for about a century.
Lets also not forget that Vegeta said "in a fight like this a minute is like a life time".
Every fight that you see is slowed down so that we can see it.
Hell in regular dbz krillin and master roshi performed a feat that would have taken a human at least an hour to do instantly.
Lets stop spamming this thread though.
By the way, durability, come on now. Strength, come on now. These are guys that bounce back up after being crushed through a mountain. These are guys that make the earth shake while fighting and destroys cities just by punching someone into it.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
All thought are the same, mine, yours, a tiger's, or anyone else, however the way you process them and stuff like that differs. my point still standsFlash and Zoom were fighting where time stood still
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/10/8uv0.jpg
More foolishness. Apparently u dont even read ur own links. In this link (which is the only valid link you even posted)
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980428032910data_trunc_sys.shtm
it is referencing cognitive speed or comprehension speed of a single volunteer in relation to different images and objects. It even talks about how his comprehension speed is faster for some objects than others. Absolutely nothing was mentioed about the uniform speed of neural impulses for humans (which is what in ur own convoluted and confused way u are referring to) which as u can see here
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml
top out at about 119metres per second.
Further for u to mention that the speed of all thoughts including those of characters like SS and those of regular humans are the same is absolutely retarded. Heck u were the one who posted the scans of the flash in final crisis countering telepathy because his thoughts were to fast. But now u go and claim that all thoughts are the same speed.lol
I have shown feats which indicate that SS thoughts (comprehension and neural impulses) operate at a far faster rate than those of regular people (heck than those of most superpowered people as well). Either post a reasonable response to it or concede.
Further, Read the scans u posted. Flash made it into Zooms world i.e his timeline. Hence the reason he was able to fight him evenly. There was no mention that zoom had stopped moving in his timeline. This is getting ridiculous.
Originally posted by Naija boy
More foolishness. Apparently u dont even read ur own links. In this link (which is the only valid link you even posted)
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980428032910data_trunc_sys.shtm
it is referencing cognitive speed or comprehension speed of a single volunteer in relation to different images and objects. It even talks about how his comprehension speed is faster for some objects than others. Absolutely nothing was mentioed about the uniform speed of neural impulses for humans (which is what in ur own convoluted and confused way u are referring to) which as u can see here
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml
top out at about 119metres per second.Further for u to mention that the speed of all thoughts including those of characters like SS and those of regular humans are the same is absolutely retarded. Heck u were the one who posted the scans of the flash in final crisis countering telepathy because his thoughts were to fast. But now u go and claim that all thoughts are the same speed.lol
I have shown feats which indicate that SS thoughts (comprehension and neural impulses) operate at a far faster rate than those of regular people (heck than those of most superpowered people as well). Either post a reasonable response to it or concede.Further, Read the scans u posted. Flash made it into Zooms world i.e his timeline. Hence the reason he was able to fight him evenly. There was no mention that zoom had stopped moving in his timeline. This is getting ridiculous.
"Thoughts are merely electrical impulses, so technically, they are just as fast as the speed of light. To process them is not what takes time, because the thought will be relayed at the speed of light once you think of it. But, to deductively arrive at a thought, now that takes a while. But once you're there and there's that "click," it happens instantaneous.
As evidence, we all know that it is a universally understood fact that when we think of an idea, we all have a physical lightbulb that appears out of nowhere and turn on by itself. The light bulb of course turns on at the speed of light."
& http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7704578
Any ways, it seems you never want to be wrong. Either way, I don't see how it even helps you.
Further, Read the scans u posted. Flash made it into Zooms world i.e his timeline. Hence the reason he was able to fight him evenly. There was no mention that zoom had stopped moving in his timeline. This is getting ridiculous.
Originally posted by carver9
Why do you say that when you have feats of them fighting around debris and they fight so fast that the rocks thats was thrown in the air isnt even moving?Lets not even forget the 5 minute fight that goku and frieza had that lasted for about a century.
Lets also not forget that Vegeta said "in a fight like this a minute is like a life time".
Every fight that you see is slowed down so that we can see it.
Hell in regular dbz krillin and master roshi performed a feat that would have taken a human at least an hour to do instantly.
Lets stop spamming this thread though.
By the way, durability, come on now. Strength, come on now. These are guys that bounce back up after being crushed through a mountain. These are guys that make the earth shake while fighting and destroys cities just by punching someone into it.
