Gladiator and Silver Surfer vs. Zoom and Ring Mongul

The "20k light speed" computation based on Wally's claim that they covered "every inch of the planet" contradicts what was shown on panel. As was shown on panel, they caused major amounts of collateral damage in each place they passed as they traveled across the planet. If it was never indicated on-panel that they caused damage that kinda damage on "every inch of the planet", then we need to chalk up what he said to character hyperbole.

Closest thing we have to what could be quantifiable there was when he stated (on the same panel) that "they circled the planet over a dozen times". In which case he was moving at no less than 1.7 times lightspeed.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The "20k light speed" computation based on Wally's claim that they covered "every inch of the planet" contradicts what was shown on panel. As was shown on panel, they caused major amounts of collateral damage in each place they passed as they traveled across the planet. If it was never indicated on-panel that they caused damage that kinda damage on "every inch of the planet", then we need to chalk up what he said to character hyperbole.

Closest thing we have to what could be quantifiable there was when he stated (on the same panel) that "they circled the planet over a dozen times". In which case he was moving at no less than 1.7 times lightspeed.

Originally posted by kgkg
Ya while we are at it we might as well ban all the other high end comic book characters.

YEAH...LET'S..... 😈

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The "20k light speed" computation based on Wally's claim that they covered "every inch of the planet" contradicts what was shown on panel. As was shown on panel, they caused major amounts of collateral damage in each place they passed as they traveled across the planet. If it was never indicated on-panel that they caused damage that kinda damage on "every inch of the planet", then we need to chalk up what he said to character hyperbole.

Closest thing we have to what could be quantifiable there was when he stated (on the same panel) that "they circled the planet over a dozen times". In which case he was moving at no less than 1.7 times lightspeed.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
actually, Zoom doesn't run, so he doesn't cause damage, and wally has the speed force that stop the collateral damage

Originally posted by Naija boy
Zoom has shown that with his thundersnaps and claps he does cause collateral damage with his speed.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
actually, Zoom doesn't run, so he doesn't cause damage, and wally has the speed force that stop the collateral damage

Except that the fight in question showed on-panel that damage was caused everywhere they went.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Except that the fight in question showed on-panel that damage was caused everywhere they went.

Because then ran through things. The Speed force prevents things like causing black holes to appear when he goes lightspeed, or Wally's legs from turning into a liquid.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ you know the issue #? i don't think i've ever seen that one..

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=12312992#post12312992

^ thanks, darth.

...makes you wonder what the ground was made of, to be able to support an infinite amount of weight. lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ thanks, darth.

...makes you wonder what the ground was made of, to be able to support an infinite amount of weight. lol.

Obviously wasn't infinite gravity.... yet.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ thanks, darth.

...makes you wonder what the ground was made of, to be able to support an infinite amount of weight. lol.

BTW do you still have that smile that's rolling a joint and turns into a pot leaf?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I was thinking the same thing. Like why didn't the planet fold on itself when the center of gravity changed into infinity. A black hole should have been created.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Because then ran through things. The Speed force prevents things like causing black holes to appear when he goes lightspeed, or Wally's legs from turning into a liquid.

Not really. Damage wasn't only indicated in areas where he crashed into objects. Areas where he simply passed by saw considerable damage (including when they ran over a skyscraper). While we all know what the Speedforce is capable of, we cannot ignore the fact that on-panel evidence indicated by the art showed that they caused damage EVERYwhere they went.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ thanks, darth.

...makes you wonder what the ground was made of, to be able to support an infinite amount of weight. lol.

haermm

Not to mention those other characters being there, who besides being alive, are also capable of moving muscles in the first place.

But clearly, a random 'infinite!' line from the silver age makes it clear that the feat is on-par with Ultraman's/Superman's/Captain Marvel's.

Originally posted by darthgoober
BTW do you still have that smile that's rolling a joint and turns into a pot leaf?

Originally posted by Philosophía
But clearly, a random 'infinite!' line from the silver age makes it clear that the feat is on-par with Ultraman's/Superman's/Captain Marvel's.