Idea for solving illegal immigration

Why not punish employers and businesses? Their breaking the law hurts everyone worse than somebody crossing the border in and of itself.

I vote that the Native Americans rise up and kick the shit out of you.

we'll just out breed(eoropean descendance) them and consume their society and re envelope them into our original culture

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh right, because this would certainly not be at all open to exploitation and slave labour.

Why even wait for illegal immigrants? Just go find some dirt poor people in some god forsaken country, promise them the citizenship and give them a gun.

If I was anybody in Al-Quaida, I'd instantly forget suicide bombing recruitment. Instead send few hundred thousand illegal immigrants to America and wait for you to give them all guns.

In fact, just selectivelly wait for illegal immigrants from Uganda and Rawanda! They're already trained to murder since they were 5.
With this kind of policy America could keep at least another 10 fronts, including North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Russia maybe even China and Saudi Arabia.

American politicians must be dumb not have not thought of this.

civil service doesn't involve weapons. It involves feeding the poor, fixing roads, killing invasive species, building roads and dams, disaster relief, and taking care of the elderly. Just thought you should know before you start focusing on the military option.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Most of our ancestors were imigrants, yes, but not illegal.

You're joking right?

Because they came to Natives with passports and proper documentation ASKING them for permission to live there.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Here's an easy simpler way to solve the immigration problem: get better security at the borders. Seriously, all those guards must be like Homer Simpson, sleeping on the job and surprisingly not fired yet.

Not to be mean, but....you're very clueless.

Watch this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1451035544403625746

Also, just google "border patrol problems" and read aabout why patroling 19,000 miles is diffcult on an annual budget of $3.5 Billion. It's not just about patrolling, either.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/archives/2007_news_releases/022007/02062007_4.xml

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You're joking right?

Because they came to Natives with passports and proper documentation ASKING them for permission to live there.

Show me the Native American secular laws and constitutions. Sure, they infringed on land, raped murdered and pillaged, etc. But the term being used isn't "immoral", it is "illegal."

To classify their immigration as illegal is.......odd?

My scheme would also involve housing, a wage, and benefits. Planting trees, weatherizing homes and keeping terminal cancer patients company aren't really bad jobs.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
...and keeping terminal cancer patients company...

One word: poop

Think about it.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
civil service doesn't involve weapons. It involves feeding the poor, fixing roads, killing invasive species, building roads and dams, disaster relief, and taking care of the elderly. Just thought you should know before you start focusing on the military option.

Oh right, this is even better.

So there are few options here -

-Slave labour and exploitation of those who are fearing persecution poverty and death

or

-Pay them to work, but then b!tch about how they're taking jobs from Americans who would be fixing roads, building roads and other infrastructure...etc which was the reason you made this thread to begin with. Because illegal immigrants are PAID to do something.

or

-Send them to die in exchange for permission to live in the country.

Great. You should start advertising in South Asia, South America and Africa.

won't take jobs if its ill maintained federal lands or if their handling problems that the private sector doesn't have the resources to handle. I still don't see where slavery comes in if your paying people, housing them, educating them, and allowing their kids to live just like any other normal kid. Can you imagine the kind of resources that would be needed if the US decided to do fire mitigation its forests and get rid of all the fuel piled up by foolish, unnatural firefighting? How many people you'd need to kill every Russian Olive tree that's ruining the forests or kill every carp that's ruining the rivers? You're not taking away jobs, you're protecting jobs while giving everyone a nicer and safer way to go outside.

Not sure why people are crying over the idea of offering criminals the option of military service in exchange for their debt to society. Very odd.

Pretty sure other countries have used this option.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Send them to die in exchange for permission to live in the country.

whats wrong with this? id feel more comfortable in iraq knowing that al-quidea has to go through twenty Mexicans to get to me. 😐 have you heard of human meat shields? played gears of war 2?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You're joking right?

Because they came to Natives with passports and proper documentation ASKING them for permission to live there.

The natives didn't have a unified government.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The natives didn't have a unified government.

"I'm the first to admit we took this country from the Indians, but what were they doing with it anyway; shooting off bows and arrows and using seashells for money." - Norman Arbuthnot

Gets me every time.

When did the Native American Nations come into this?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Show me the Native American secular laws and constitutions. Sure, they infringed on land, raped murdered and pillaged, etc. But the term being used isn't "immoral", it is "illegal."

To classify their immigration as illegal is.......odd?

Raping, pillaging and claiming lands via warfare was used by the Native American Indians themselves. White people just did it better and far more efficiently.

Originally posted by Robtard
"I'm the first to admit we took this country from the Indians, but what were they doing with it anyway; shooting off bows and arrows and using seashells for money." - Norman Arbuthnot

Gets me every time.

Ha, that'll show them to be inferior!

But seriously, for the most part the natives didn't even claim to own the land and no laws governed it (except "Natural Law") so it couldn't be taken illegally.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
When did the Native American Nations come into this?

Bringing up Native Americans is a common ploy for the anti-American crowd when trying to make a point about illegals in America. Like all other countries except America have open borders and openly accept anyone.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ha, that'll show them to be inferior!

But seriously, for the most part the natives didn't even claim to own the land and no laws governed it (except "Natural Law") so it couldn't be taken illegally.

Bingo. 👆