Originally posted by Darth MartinA lightsaber blade is gonna go through him and keep cutting, through his spine, through everything.
Anakin had more midichlorians than anyone ever, having been possibly consumed by them. Doesn't mean he's the most powerful. He has more raw power and untapped potential, Tyranus is far more skilled in the Force and is atleast as skilled as Anakin with a lightsaber. Anakin won because of circumstance. If both fought each other without Palpatine or Kenobi there, Tyranus will take a majority IMO.That very video shows Anakin failing to overcome Kenobi's force push with his own. They are more or less equals.
Why wouldn't Cap be able to resist one? Kenobi did. He's taken a stab by Kleizer near his heart, been shot multiple times to no avail, and taken massive hits from Hulk.
Can either Jedi afford to take a hit from Cap's shield. Nope.
And the Jedi aren't gonna get hit by the Shield. 🙄 🙄
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriActually I never had a problem with the taste of medicine, even as a child I tool it willingly and without a fight. Even NyQuil.
To be fair, slicing with a knife and slicing with a lightsabre is different.Knifes and regular blades can get stuck on bone and such.
Horrible isn't it? Medicine is horrible when it's your own that you're tasting.
-AC
Originally posted by Darth Martin
When exactly did he do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqKvKUTElA
3:52
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhere is it explicitly stated that Sabretooth could've killed Wolverine? I don't remember it. I remember him saying it, I don't remember it being stated or reason being given as to how this could happen.
It doesn't matter: he said it. It wasn't boisterous, either. It was a rather "done deal", actually. The only logical conclusion is Wolverine's healing factor would wear out, but, from the movie, we know it would take 2 days of constant ass raping to kill Wolverine. You can't prove a negative. You have no way of proving that he couldn't. None of his team-mates contradicted him, and Deathstrike seemed pretty convinced that she could kill Logan.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How would blinding him in one eye kill him? One of the criteria is that lightsabre can't cut adamantium. How's it going to reach his brain?-AC
The answer was in the post you quoted:
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, the optic nerve travels to the brain. Stab the saber through the optic nerve on Wolvie. Pwned.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
facepalm
Is Ultimate Captain America, all of a sudden, magic? I didn't think so. Is his body made of adamantium? I didn't think so. Does he have precog? I didn't think so. Is he immune to the force? OP indicates otherwise.
Thread should have been closed at the beginning anyway because Imp said that there would be no more gimping.
Originally posted by truejedi
another thought: if cap throws that shield, he's gonna lose it. You said yourself it weighs 12 pounds. The jedi will simply TK it away.
While that may be true, the Jedi were gimped in the OP, so I don't think that's possible in this thread.
OP? do you mean PT?
There are so many ways for the Jedi to win this fight though, with no scenario's where the Xmen have a realistic shot of winning.
1. Take away Caps shield.
2. Lift them both 6 inches off the ground
3. stab them. (wolverine can obviously be taken down with a bullet to the head,so a lightsaber to the head would incapacitate him in the same way.
4. in Anakin's case, simply choke them. (no one has offered any evidence for why Wolverine would be able to "Power through" this move. The only person to do that in the mythos was Galen Marek, and he knew how to counter it, and THAT was the only reason he was able to.
Originally posted by truejedi
OP? do you mean PT?There are so many ways for the Jedi to win this fight though, with no scenario's where the Xmen have a realistic shot of winning.
1. Take away Caps shield.
2. Lift them both 6 inches off the ground
3. stab them. (wolverine can obviously be taken down with a bullet to the head,so a lightsaber to the head would incapacitate him in the same way.
4. in Anakin's case, simply choke them. (no one has offered any evidence for why Wolverine would be able to "Power through" this move. The only person to do that in the mythos was Galen Marek, and he knew how to counter it, and THAT was the only reason he was able to.
The Jedi cannot force pull away Cap's shield. They have been gimped ✅
And yeah, Wolvie would react to the force choke the same way a regular human would. Death.
Originally posted by truejedi
OP? do you mean PT?There are so many ways for the Jedi to win this fight though, with no scenario's where the Xmen have a realistic shot of winning.
1. Take away Caps shield.
2. Lift them both 6 inches off the ground
3. stab them. (wolverine can obviously be taken down with a bullet to the head,so a lightsaber to the head would incapacitate him in the same way.
4. in Anakin's case, simply choke them. (no one has offered any evidence for why Wolverine would be able to "Power through" this move. The only person to do that in the mythos was Galen Marek, and he knew how to counter it, and THAT was the only reason he was able to.
OP= Opening Post, you know, the opening post where it says this is Wolverine from Hulk Vs. and Cap from Ultimate Avengers? And the Jedi are Revenge of the Sith.
1.Can't take Caps shield.
2. Neither of the jedi showed more TK than push and pull, we go my movie feats, if they didn't do it in the movie, they can't do on the forum.
3. Wolverine from Hulk vs. didn't go down to a bullet to the head, plus, in the Origins movie, he took multiple bullets and kept going with no problems. On top of that, getting shot, compared to getting stabbed by a blade of energy wouldn't have the same effect, especially since it wouldn't penetrate his skull, he'd just have a hole burnt in his head that stopped at his skeleton, and he'd be pissed.
4. Stop trying to play the Force Choke up, If if was Force Grip, which is a much stronger choke, while at the same time gripping the opponent in a TK vice, or Force Crush, where you literally implode the opponents body, I'd put up no argument, but it's a simple choke. As much as Wolverine and Cap went through, a choke isn't going to slow them down.
I didn't realize this was a spite thread. But re-reading the OP this time, i see it was. The Jedi can't use their abilities to so much as dis-arm their opponents. Though him throwing the shield, and directly pulling it from him are two different things.
Tell me, in Hulk vs. Wolverine, does it explicitly SAY that Wolverine has an admantium skeleton? And does it SPECIFICALLY show him healing from head wounds?
Does it specifically SHOW him fighting off a force choke?
If not to ANY of these, He can't do it. By your own words.
Also: A lightsaber may be unable to cut through the admantium (thanks to the OP) but it will cut through the muscles and tendons supporting the skeleton. A cut through said muscles effectively takes that limb out of the fight. Skeletons don't operate on their own.
Lastly: A kenobi able to throw and bend the robot skeleton of grievous (20 strokes a second grievous) is going to be unable to manipulate Logan's much smaller metal skeleton?
You are stacking the deck on what is allowed.
For instance:
The Jedi CAN'T use a the well-known jedi practice of levitation,
But Wolverine CAN power through a force-choke? (despite ABSOLUTE no evidence that he can do so!)
You are simply disallowing evidence that you don't like.
Nope, Dudemon.
Gonna need factual proof.
Truejedi: Wolverine has an adamantium skeleton, that's what he has. It's what he always has. It's not an ability, it's part of who he is. It's what he's known for.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Jedi cannot force pull away Cap's shield. They have been gimped ✅And yeah, Wolvie would react to the force choke the same way a regular human would. Death.
He wouldn't because Obi-Wan and Jedi Anakin wouldn't force-choke him to death.
I know this for a fact because you agree with me, which I also know for a fact.
-AC