Originally posted by psycho gundamQFT.
quan is trying to say that arguments on how some characters win fights is conditional to whom they are facing, for example batman wouldn't need prep to fight punisher straight up, and nobody would really insinuate that he would need it. if he was fighting ironman, his supporters would have to fall back on batman's plethora of preperation feats.the silver surfer using cosmic awareness and such to figure out superman's kryptonian physiology is the same sort of argument (though i don't really think he needs it). if he were to fight despero or something you wouldn't really see many cosmic awareness posts.
so yeah, basically conditional arguments
Originally posted by batdude123
If Superman didn't want to be touched by Hulk, there's no reason to think he could.Superman getting tagged by bricks is usually CIS, PIS, or a combination of both.
Its more CIS than anything and its also in character.
It has been happening so much, basically his entire career for it to be called pis. If anything is pis its him using his speed than the latter since basically his entire rogue is nothing but bricks and he have constant showings of fighting on their level.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
quan is trying to say that arguments on how some characters win fights is conditional to whom they are facing, for example batman wouldn't need prep to fight punisher straight up, and nobody would really insinuate that he would need it. if he was fighting ironman, his supporters would have to fall back on batman's plethora of preperation feats.the silver surfer using cosmic awareness and such to figure out superman's kryptonian physiology is the same sort of argument (though i don't really think he needs it). if he were to fight despero or something you wouldn't really see many cosmic awareness posts.
so yeah, basically conditional arguments
ah.
Originally posted by Spire
Saying Superman HVs Hulk from the moon is comparable.What's not, is saying that Superman uses speed and Hulk never touches him.
bingo.
Originally posted by carver9
And I dont understand that. Out of all the times superman has been koed, killed, or practically, just physically dominated, are you saying this was something that he allowed to happen.
how many times has he been any of those? 99% of bricks that tag him don't beat him. you seem to forget that.
owaw superman, sure. contemporary, "norman showing" superman would lock horns with hulk, though logically he should fight like owaw. *shrugs*
Originally posted by h1a8someone please break this kid's fingures
Superman koes them all with his speed and strength. Stardust gets koed, Surfer, etc. If Tyrant is included then Superman koes him after a sundip. If Destroyer is included then Superman most likely could beat it without a sundip. If not, then sundip it is.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman koes them all with his speed and strength. Stardust gets koed, Surfer, etc. If Tyrant is included then Superman koes him after a sundip. If Destroyer is included then Superman most likely could beat it without a sundip. If not, then sundip it is.
you almost make me ashamed to be a superman fan.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
owaw superman, sure. contemporary, "norman showing" superman would lock horns with hulk, though logically he should fight like owaw. *shrugs*
This post is what I'm trying to say. If we use standard Superman then hulk would land as many hits as Superman would on him.
If we use high end Supes then hulk would get some licks but Supes would get the high majority of licks.
Originally posted by carver9
This post is what I'm trying to say. If we use standard Superman then hulk would land as many hits as Superman would on him.If we use high end Supes then hulk would get some licks but Supes would get the high majority of licks.
normal superman can use his speed when he wants to, and has done it outside owaw plenty of times.
Originally posted by SpireIf he fights in character he won't use his speed a majority of the time. That's my whole problem with that. It's just like me arguing Thor godblasting someone to win a majority.
Saying Superman HVs Hulk from the moon is comparable.What's not, is saying that Superman uses speed and Hulk never touches him.
Originally posted by psycho gundam😂
owaw superman, sure. contemporary, "norman showing" superman would lock horns with hulk, though logically he should fight like owaw. *shrugs*someone please break this kid's fingures
Originally posted by -Pr-You should be ashamed because you are a superman fan.
you almost make me ashamed to be a superman fan.
That's reason enough.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
If he fights in character he won't use his speed a majority of the time. That's my whole problem with that. It's just like me arguing Thor godblasting someone to win a majority. 😂 You should be ashamed because you are a superman fan.That's reason enough.
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said the thanos fan.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not saying that he cant. Honestly, I think Supes would land the first 2 to 3 licks before hulk connects on his first one.
and then when superman realises how hard hulk can hit, he won't be touched after that, because he's simply too fast.