Kalibak vs Wolverine

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I am disappointed in you. It a title it does not mean you automatically wins because he a god nor does it mean he has any or all of the ability you mention. Yet he been dropped by bullets, he show no super human reflexes or agility or speed so to assume he has so because he a god is ridiculous.

Yet his style of combat has never evolved, whats good is all that experience when eh fights that same way ever single time? Being god of war does not make you a good fighter. Hell in actual mythology Ares is a pussy for the most part. Being a god does not mean you can beat every character or any for that matter it a meaningless title. Hell US Agent came out and even said it in mighty avengers that there not god there just meta humans the people mistakenly worshiped.

Wolverine not a street level character for starters. No what I am argueing is that a character that is designed to take it to brick can do just that dispite what retard title they may posses. Ares is a low end brick he brings nothing to the table wolverine not delt with, many gods can have the same thing said about them.

"Godhood" isn't so much a title as it is an indication of their inherited characteristics. As such it can be assumed that they posses the ability common to their race. For example an average Asgardian is automatically in the 30 ton range in strength and typically possess durability, speed, and reflexes beyond a normal human.

This differs somewhat for Marvel Olympians or DC New Gods but the general point is the same. Inherited godly characteristics automatically give these characters large advantages over street level characters of which I believe Wolverine belongs.

As for Ares, I think his fights against Thor and Classic Hercules not to mention his recent showing in the Olympian war against Amatsu-Mikaboshi puts him in a different class than Wolverine, imo.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, the first scan you showed, isnt that from the same comic where wolverine blisted him and death stroke commented on wolverines speed and ds ended up getting knocked out by a glancing blow from a wolverine that blitzed him again?

The second scan, he didnt keep up with impulse, he tricked him.

All you did was show me him tagging people that he shouldnt have tagged, me and your scans are completely different. I can put up a scan of wolverine fight gladiator, a being that flew 100 times the speed of light but its pointless.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I don't know if Spideys reflexes are ten times+ than a normal human 😬

😕 It was mentioned that spiderman reflexes is 40 times greater than an average human.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
That was Deathstroke years ago. He's gotten faster. He also sees things in some kind of slow motion thingy. So he has got that now too.

Originally posted by carver9
😕 It was mentioned that spiderman reflexes is 40 times greater than an average human.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Gladiator flying at 100 times the speed of light has no bearing on anything since that is him traveling. Not fighting. Gladiator is a warrior who often slows down to get a good fight in. Or don't you remember how he fought Colossus at slower speeds. Death stroke didn't trick Impluse, he flat out says, I"m fast too. Can't you read the scan?

I'm not saying deathstroke is slow but hes not faster or as fast as wolverine or spiderman, THATS what I'm saying.

Your scans was disappointing.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
. Death stroke didn't trick Impluse, he flat out says, I"m fast too. Can't you read the scan?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
So does everyone depending on there speed relative to the speed of the object coming at them well factoring in was adrenalin. It not some special power he posses lol.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yea and? I am sorry but the flash crew jobb like it no ones business. Impressive as it may look night wing, batman so forth ahve all done similar.

Let's not forget that when Deathstroke shot Bart in the kneecap, he was AIMING for it. It was just some random tagging, like swinging his arms around. He purposely aimed and hit Bart in the kneecap, WHILE he was running.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's not forget that when Deathstroke shot Bart in the kneecap, he was AIMING for it. It was just some random tagging, like swinging his arms around. He purposely aimed and hit Bart in the kneecap, WHILE he was running.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's not forget that when Deathstroke shot Bart in the kneecap, he was AIMING for it. It was just some random tagging, like swinging his arms around. He purposely aimed and hit Bart in the kneecap, WHILE he was running.

which furth emphasizes the fact the flash squad jobs and quite frequently dont go anywere near the full speed when dealing with DS among others.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
then it's impressive for them all. Death stroke was avoiding Superman who was trying to capture him. So yeah, he is impressive and easily as fast as Spiderman and Wolverine. Hell his speed feats are better because he faces faster opponents.

LOL, he face opponents that he shouldnt be facing. If flash dont want death stroke touching him then it wont happen, thats pretty much plain and clear.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
then it's impressive for them all. Death stroke was avoiding Superman who was trying to capture him. So yeah, he is impressive and easily as fast as Spiderman and Wolverine. Hell his speed feats are better because he faces faster opponents.

People do realize that it is in fact possible to like Wolverine and admit that other characters are indeed as fast or faster than him.

Right? 😕

ps does this seem more like a case of company bias rather than an actual debate on the characters to anybody else? Its as if one has to diminish the well established powers of characters from one company if they are fans of characters from another. 😬

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's not forget that when Deathstroke shot Bart in the kneecap, he was AIMING for it. It was just some random tagging, like swinging his arms around. He purposely aimed and hit Bart in the kneecap, WHILE he was running.

Flash entire gallary consist of people with human reaction speed and all of them have tagged him so what was your point?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
except it is.

Originally posted by TheKahn
People do realize that it is in fact possible to like Wolverine and admit that other characters are indeed as fast or faster than him.

Right? 😕

ps does this seem more like a case of company bias rather than an actual debate on the characters to anybody else? Its as if one has to diminish the well established powers of characters from one company if they are fans of characters from another. 😬

I agree with this statement but I dont agree with ds being on wolverine and Spidermans level of speed when he's not.

Originally posted by carver9
Flash entire gallary consist of people with human reaction speed and all of them have tagged him so what was your point?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
but it not at all. Many characters have made similar statements it does not mean they posses some special power, hell ive seen things in slow motion before.

It was never said that he see things in slow motion, it was said that he see things faster than regular humans and if thats the case, so does beast, toad, etc.....