Originally posted by carver9And yet he has the feats to back it up. you demean every feat from DC characters that you don't like. I can't debate with you any more.
LOL, he face opponents that he shouldnt be facing. If flash dont want death stroke touching him then it wont happen, thats pretty much plain and clear.
Originally posted by TheKahn
People do realize that it is in fact possible to like Wolverine and admit that other characters are indeed as fast or faster than him.Right? 😕
ps does this seem more like a case of company bias rather than an actual debate on the characters to anybody else? Its as if one has to diminish the well established powers of characters from one company if they are fans of characters from another. 😬
least it better then assuming some one wins becuase they have the title god in there name 😛
Originally posted by Zeuodin
with special circumstances. they are all specifically made to hit him. Plus it was already established that they were never any real threat to flash.
Just like deathstroke isnt a real threat to the flash. Flash can go one percent of his speed in kill deathstroke in one panel.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That be impressive and all, but then the fact he was hit with the bullet mean he had to be traveling at speed slower then it...........which furth emphasizes the fact the flash squad jobs and quite frequently dont go anywere near the full speed when dealing with DS among others.
Not really... from football players to ground-air-missiles slower objects can hit faster moving ones provided they have the correct angle of attack and timing.
Most high class bricks job when it comes to Wolverine as well. One single hit from the Thing or the Hulk or anybody close to that range would realistically be enough to send the approximately 300lb Wolverine flying into the next state. 😬
Originally posted by carver9Except Death stroke is on panel evading other speedsters besides flash. Superman, Wonder Woman, kid Flash etc. His speed is remarked on. He is fast. and his reactions speeds are incredible.
Just like deathstroke isnt a real threat to the flash. Flash can go one percent of his speed in kill deathstroke in one panel.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
And yet he has the feats to back it up. you demean every feat from DC characters that you don't like. I can't debate with you any more.
Ok, let me use a marvel character then. Hulk has tagged the surfer before and we all know that if Surfer dont want Hulk hitting him then it shouldnt happen because Surfer is a being that can perceive things at the speed of light.
Is that better for ya and hulk is one of my fave characters.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Except Death stroke is on panel evading other speedsters besides flash. Superman, Wonder Woman, kid Flash etc. His speed is remarked on. He is fast. and his reactions speeds are incredible.
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They would destory him....maybe not Kid Flash.
Anyways....Kalibak still stomps Logan.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, let me use a marvel character then. Hulk has tagged the surfer before and we all know that if Surfer dont want Hulk hitting him then it shouldnt happen because Surfer is a being that can perceive things at the speed of light.Is that better for ya and hulk is one of my fave characters.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I dont care if DS is as fast, I just hate when people bring up hitting flash. It so unimpressive in DC because everyone and there mothers do it. It sad that speedstir vastly slower then they are get hit far less.
When you are one of the main opponents of a character or team (Flash and Teen Titans) you are typically given the abilities to take them on.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
least it better then assuming some one wins becuase they have the title god in there name 😛
meh...its not so much the title as the godly attributes associated with it.
Originally posted by TheKahn
"Godhood" isn't so much a title as it is an indication of their inherited characteristics. As such it can be assumed that they posses the ability common to their race. For example an average Asgardian is automatically in the 30 ton range in strength and typically possess durability, speed, and reflexes beyond a normal human.
Originally posted by TheKahn
This differs somewhat for Marvel Olympians or DC New Gods but the general point is the same. Inherited godly characteristics automatically give these characters large advantages over street level characters of which I believe Wolverine belongs.
Originally posted by TheKahn
As for Ares, I think his fights against Thor and Classic Hercules not to mention his recent showing in the Olympian war against Amatsu-Mikaboshi puts him in a different class than Wolverine, imo.
Oh then we have Ares vs WWH if not mistaken he got dropped in a single attack. Wolverine did vastly better then he did.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/683/dsphoefeat3lp.jpghttp://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3742/teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
Not only is he fast, he also sees things in slow motion
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More speed
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You should have done your homework on any DC character before you go making dumb statements.
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http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5453/sladesuperman7yh.jpg
That was a pretty good choice of scenes with DS; a couple were ones I hadn't even seen before. I think he is at least on par, if not better than Wolverine, and if he had a danger-sense like spiderman's, would be as fast as him (though Pete's faster otherwise).
Back on Kalibak vs. Wolverine: To restate -- Kalibak can take a beating, and will be hurting from Logan's claws, but he'll eventually pound Logan into unconsciousness.
Originally posted by TheKahn
When you are one of the main opponents of a character or team (Flash and Teen Titans) you are typically given the abilities to take them on.meh...its not so much the title as the godly attributes associated with it.
No it really a title, to assume they posses such attributes dispite never showing them is absurd.
Originally posted by Starscream M
why are we talking about DS in a kalibak vs wolverine thread?
It revolves around the question of whether the Superman/Orion level Kalibak would be fast enough to hit Wolverine. Thus general speed feats from both companies have been brought up to prove that point one way or the other.
How this matters as Wolverine has been hit by Human speed characters before is beyond me.
