Kalibak vs Wolverine

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carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Even the Old Cheeta was fast enough to keep up with Wonder Woman's reflexes who even back in the day was still fast enough to fight hermes and mercury.

Show me that speed feat.

-K-M- ...........

Clarification what Cheetah we talking about? As some were just humans with no speed, but at that time WW didn't have any speed herself.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
i already explained why i hadn't posted scans.

speed stealing is temporary. not permanent.

Why arent you posting scans, I didnt read that part (my bad)?

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He threw him, not punched him. Huge difference.
Oh yeah. WWH is the one who backhanded Logan off panel. 😂 And WWH also punched another character to the next county during WWH.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you think i'm honestly going to take the time to scan things that you should probably already know?

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by -K-M-
Clarification what Cheetah we talking about? As some were just humans with no speed, but at that time WW didn't have any speed herself.

Any cheetah without any upgrades. Just regular cheetah before meeting Zoom.

TheKahn The Dude abides

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No more inconsistent then any brick. Funny how you complain about wolverine, but not bricks interesting no?

Yea because he has shown to be to fast for bricks before, but hey we could also bring up the fact he could stabb them in the head, heart or cut of limbs which he done before.....

But how many times wa swolverine actaully trying to dodge? almost none of them? how many times has wolverine stated he lets him self get hit? hell spiderman stated he knows wolverine lets him self get hit.

Funny that you say this, but Wolverine taking it to bricks is nothing new. Hell Wolverine first fight was Herc was late 80's early 90's

See what I mean? 😑

Wolverine is always too fast, or too durable, or too deadly to lose no matter who his opponent is. And there is always an excuse ready to explain away any of his lower showings. That isn't debate, its mindless devotion.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
You basically wanted to take the opportunity to defend Wolverine and thats pretty much what it comes down to. 😬
and you wanted to take the time to defend sas and that's what it pretty much comes down to.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Clarification what Cheetah we talking about? As some were just humans with no speed, but at that time WW didn't have any speed herself.
Minerva the one who gets her speed from a god

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by TheKahn
See what I mean? 😑

Wolverine is [b]always too fast, or too durable, or too deadly to lose no matter who his opponent is. And there is always an excuse ready to explain away any of his lower showings. That isn't debate, its mindless devotion. [/B]

For bricks, yes he too fast and deadly.

The Nuul Senior Member
Originally posted by -K-M-
Clarification what Cheetah we talking about? As some were just humans with no speed, but at that time WW didn't have any speed herself.

Its not the one from Thundercats.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by TheKahn
I agree. Its a BS explanation used to cover up for the artistic licenses taking in most comics. I don't particularly like it myself.

It a comic, there not held to real world physic or logic with there characters why should gravity ect. be any different is how I look at it.

Originally posted by TheKahn
For the umpteenth time: it not the title but the godly attributes that tend to come with it. You may disagree but in my mind Wolverine is street level.

But if they dont show thoses attributes or stated with them on pannel why assume they have them?

Originally posted by TheKahn
That's why Spiderman, Cyclops, the Punisher, Gorgon, the Silver Samurai, Lady Deathstrike, and other street level have put up good showings against him. But that is just my opinion. And no one has yet to show Wolverine beating Thor or Immortal Hercules.

None of the guys mention out side Punisher is a street level.
ABC logic my friend. Most of thoses characters arnt threat to Ares because they can't hurt him or wistand his attacks. Though Gorgon.cyclopes would surely beat him. Samuria could really hurt him if he hit Ares, as could Lady Death strike.

contest of champions 2. beats herc.

wolverine vs thor comic exculusive issue 2 . (wolverine dident win, but he put up a good fight in melee)

Originally posted by TheKahn
You have yet to show that Ares has "weak" durability. He has fought Thor and Immortal Hercules after all 😕

Inconsistent may be a better term. he been shown more then onces to be dropped by bullets. WWH and Savage Hulk dropped him with a single shot. His son stabbed him in his mini and he was dropped again.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Again please show the scans proving that Wolverine is superior in any of those categories to the God of War. Saying repeatedly doesn't actually prove anything

You want me to post feats I wolverine being faster, better reflexes and better fighter then Ares? Are you sure? Or am I gunna have you sit there and straight up ignore them? Becuase I got a paper to right, if your gunna ignore evidence I present and complain about it I not gunna waste my time.

also you have brought nothing to the table your self.

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by carver9
Any cheetah without any upgrades. Just regular cheetah before meeting Zoom.

Pre-Crisis
Cheetah I (Priscilla Rich)-Had no super speed she was just a human in a cheetah costume, but at the time WW didn't have super speed
Cheetah II (Deborah Domaine)-Had no super speed she was just a human in a cheetah costume, but at the time WW didn't have super speed

Post-Crisis
Cheetah III (Barbara Ann Minerva)-She 100% had superspeed as she was augmented into a human-cheetah hybrid by a god.
Cheeath IV (Sebastian Ballesteros)-He 100% had superspeed as he was augmented into a human-cheetah hybrid by a god.

Ill see if I can dig up some scans, just heading out for the evening but ultimately lazy

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Pre-Crisis
Cheetah I (Priscilla Rich)-Had no super speed she was just a human in a cheetah costume, but at the time WW didn't have super speed
Cheetah II (Deborah Domaine)-Had no super speed she was just a human in a cheetah costume, but at the time WW didn't have super speed

Post-Crisis
Cheetah III (Barbara Ann Minerva)-She 100% had superspeed as she was augmented into a human-cheetah hybrid by a god.
Cheeath IV (Sebastian Ballesteros)-He 100% had superspeed as he was augmented into a human-cheetah hybrid by a god.

Ill see if I can dig up some scans, just heading out for the evening but ultimately lazy

I'm referring to the female version not the one that Superman fought (the guy version). It was pretty obvious he had super speed, he was blitzing superman left and right.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by TheKahn
See what I mean? 😑

Wolverine is [b]always too fast, or too durable, or too deadly to lose no matter who his opponent is. And there is always an excuse ready to explain away any of his lower showings. That isn't debate, its mindless devotion. [/B]


why dont we just act like you and ignore what we dont like?

I brought up the cutting off limbs, stabbing head, heart ect. Because if you want to argue BFR, we could argue this as well. I find neither likely given the fact both happen far less times then they happen.

Yea clearly I don't think wolverine can loses ever becuase I think he can take it to Ares a brick who only option is melee and not a strong one at that, I mean what was I thinking, wolverine can't handily bricks he only foguht namor 5 times, tgier shark twice, ba'al 3 times, hulk 14 plus times, thing 4 times ect.

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by Starscream M
and you wanted to take the time to defend sas and that's what it pretty much comes down to.

Yes an no, that was more of a clarification. If I wanted to defend Sasquatch I would have talked about he ko'ed Wolverine and Wolverine hasn't even ever tagged Walter yet. However, then I would have to go into context.

Wolverine has cut Hulk and Rulk and did all the things Carver said they did, but not to Walter.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Its not the one from Thundercats.

There's been 4 Cheetah's in DC 😬

iceman24567 Senior Member

Both had superhuman speed of the same level she lost her powers three times but with them she is vastly superior to characters like Spiderman

iceman24567 Senior Member
Originally posted by carver9
I'm referring to the female version not the one that Superman fought (the guy version). It was pretty obvious he had super speed, he was blitzing superman left and right.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Both had superhuman speed of the same level she lost her powers three times but with them she is vastly superior to characters like Spiderman
carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by iceman24567
Both had superhuman speed of the same level she lost her powers three times but with them she is vastly superior to characters like Spiderman

And thats where I disagree at, that cheetah that fought superman was amped.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Both are amped by the same god.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by iceman24567
Both are amped by the same god.

I know that but it was a different kind of Amp. Superman couldnt even keep up OR land a lick off of the male version of cheetah, he was getting completely annihilated. Hell, this version winked out ( some dbz sh**) when superman turned around to heat vision it.

No, that wasnt norm cheetah.