Originally posted by carver9
I know that but it was a different kind of Amp. Superman couldnt even keep up OR land a lick off of the male version of cheetah, he was getting completely annihilated. Hell, this version winked out ( some dbz sh**) when superman turned around to heat vision it.No, that wasnt norm cheetah.
Originally posted by -K-M-As i said same amp Cheetah is that fast on panel evidence proves this 😬
Their actually "supposed" to be equal as its the same curse Barbara had/has that Sebastian took
Originally posted by carver9
I know that but it was a different kind of Amp. Superman couldnt even keep up OR land a lick off of the male version of cheetah, he was getting completely annihilated. Hell, this version winked out ( some dbz sh**) when superman turned around to heat vision it.No, that wasnt norm cheetah.
Actually that *is* normal, for both versions of the Cheetah; art and story can play a part, but for the past 10 years or so, that is the normal speed/combat reflex for the Cheetah. (Now, as things were 20 years ago, before various improvements? That's a different story. But even in the first few years after Crisis, Barabara was drawn/scripted as having speed/reflexes that were definitely at least in the Spiderman category).
Originally posted by Starscream M
are you seriously suggesting wolverine can't cut Walter? you're quite a funny man, mungi.
No he most DEFINETLY can cut Walter, and where did I even suggest he couldn't? However, carver was claiming he did in the fight and even beat Walter but neither happened
Originally posted by Battlehammer
you seem to be doing the same thing....why so hostile?
Not quite as I have explained earlier. Also thats not hostile, if you took it that way I apologize.
Originally posted by carver9
But during the story you can tell that THAT particular cheetah was amped to unknown levels. It was curb stomping Superman and no normal cheetah can do that the way he did.
I tend to agree, they were supposed to be the same level but he seemed a little more amped. However, regardless even pre-Zoom training Cheetah was definetly faster then Spider-Man.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Not quite as I have explained earlier. Also thats not hostile, if you took it that way I apologize.
no worries
Originally posted by BattlehammerI suppose we'll have to agree to disagree then. I tend to view those instances where they actually do depict things accurately as being more creditable, but that's just me.
It a comic, there not held to real world physic or logic with there characters why should gravity ect. be any different is how I look at it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
But if they dont show thoses attributes or stated with them on pannel why assume they have them?
Have you been reading the latest Thor run?
Spoiler:Instances such as that and the handbook/bios published by the company is enough for me.
In it Loki helps Dr. Doom kidnap a regular Asgardian (one nobody would miss) so Doom could dissect him and study his godly attribuest: namely his immortality.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
None of the guys mention out side Punisher is a street level.
ABC logic my friend. Most of thoses characters arnt threat to Ares because they can't hurt him or wistand his attacks. Though Gorgon.cyclopes would surely beat him. Samuria could really hurt him if he hit Ares, as could Lady Death strike.
Again, we simply disagree here. Obviously my definition of street level is quite different from yours.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
contest of champions 2. beats herc.wolverine vs thor comic exculusive issue 2 . (wolverine dident win, but he put up a good fight in melee)
Please post the scans so we can all see the context. I've heard several people doubt the validity of those instances and would like to actually see them myself. Also wasn't that Mortal Hercules?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Inconsistent may be a better term. he been shown more then onces to be dropped by bullets. WWH and Savage Hulk dropped him with a single shot. His son stabbed him in his mini and he was dropped again.
Or not.
WWH was one shot-ing just about everyone and even BFR a fully power Juggernaut. Just because they had a vastly more popular character last fractionally longer than a much less popular one means little to me. Also, the sword Alexander used was magical in nature and was meant to enable Ares' son to kill him
Originally posted by Battlehammer
You want me to post feats I wolverine being faster, better reflexes and better fighter then Ares? Are you sure? Or am I gunna have you sit there and straight up ignore them? Becuase I got a paper to right, if your gunna ignore evidence I present and complain about it I not gunna waste my time.
No, I want you to show some proof that Ares' durability is as low as you claim it is. You and others have made that claim but have yet to back it up with proof.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
also you have brought nothing to the table your self.
I disagree.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I was just clarifying that Sas did not easily hit him in a fight. Because as ive learned on this site if things arnt explained right away people try and uses it despite never reading the events. (I am refferring to others not your self)no worries
Even after the intial cheapshot in the second fight (Wolverine even knew Sasquatch was after him), he still tagged him again without much troubles *shrugs*
Fair enough.
Originally posted by carver9
Just a little more amped, I think it was a HUGE amp.
Potentially, hard to say as they claimed they were supposed to be equal but it didn't seem like it.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Even after the intial cheapshot in the second fight (Wolverine even knew Sasquatch was after him), he still tagged him again without much troubles *shrugs*Fair enough.
Potentially, hard to say as they claimed they were supposed to be equal but it didn't seem like it.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
why dont we just act like you and ignore what we dont like?I brought up the cutting off limbs, stabbing head, heart ect. Because if you want to argue BFR, we could argue this as well. I find neither likely given the fact both happen far less times then they happen.
[b]Yea clearly I don't think wolverine can loses ever
becuase I think he can take it to Ares a brick who only option is melee and not a strong one at that, I mean what was I thinking, wolverine can't handily bricks he only foguht namor 5 times, tgier shark twice, ba'al 3 times, hulk 14 plus times, thing 4 times ect. [/B]
See what I mean? Mindless devotion. Wolverine can't loss to Ares despite losing in the past to weaker characters. Makes sense.
Wolverine Logic = Only focus on the high feats, completely ignore lower showings and/or PIS.
Originally posted by TheKahn
See what I mean? Mindless devotion. Wolverine can't loss to Ares despite losing in the past to weaker characters. Makes sense.Wolverine Logic = Only focus on the high feats, completely ignore lower showings and/or PIS.
😂 Wait wait wait.... did you just inply that we shouldn't be ignoring PIS?
lol... wow. I'm gonna jump on this mess in a lil bit but I gotta get back to work. In the mean time prepare yourselves.