Superman vs Thanos

Originally posted by Starscream M
the whole point is they don't...yet they still damaged galactus. which is my whole friggin point. jeez you're dense.

You're entire basis was that, since the God Blast damaged Galactus and didn't damage Cain, Cain is more durable than Galactus.

And you're point is baseless because those instances didn't damage Galactus. Or if your definition by damaging means ruining his head gear, not affecting him, then yea, why not.

Bringing up instances, that did not harm Galactus at all like those two, is akin to me bringing up the instance Green Scar dented Juggernaut's helmet, or when Thor knocks it off. Or the time, Thor punches Juggernaut off his feat when weakened.

Those instances did as much damage to Cain as the ones you listed did to Galactus. Which is none.

You do also know that Juggernaut has been damage and shown physical pain on a number of occasions from things much lower than that which have affected Galan right?

rage, we'll debate this another time...I dont want to derail this thread into off-topic.

Sure.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably true.

That depends on your definition by a whole lot.

We also have to start differentiating between power and versatility which makes it more difficult because Norrin is so powerful and versatile.

aye. it all comes down to definitions.

Originally posted by Warlord
correct.

by the way cool sig
👆

thanks.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
😐

Just like Carver taught Paul a couple of things about Superman.

i actually lol'd.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Holy shit. That's weird. I just remembered my debate with you about that, and how I was too lazy about finishing it. I was considering replying as I flipped through the issue, and it was stated Thor was nearly powerless, "while" fighting this Hulk.

And even the entire Warrior Madness thing? He didn't enter it until the last panel.

I haven't read that arc in a while, but if Samson is right, it's even more impressive.

Or am I wrong again, oh all knowing Quan? 🙁

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/TheIncredibleHulkv2-440-05.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor497-01.jpg

It was rather obvious anyways that his full powers returned from reading the story but Thor mentioning it in his own series seals the deal, brah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong again my dear young boy. Let me illuminate you.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/TheIncredibleHulkv2-440-05.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor497-01.jpg

It was rather obvious anyways that his full powers returned from reading the story but Thor mentioning it in his own series seals the deal, brah.

God damnit Quan are you stalking me? I literally was reading #496 when you posted those scans. I read #497 and I was like **** Quan was right.

What does he mean in the midst of the battle and due to Leader? When did this happen? And wasn't it Omnibus that was involved not the Leader?

As clearly the scan you posted of the lightning show were before the battle. And the scan I posted of him being called near powerless was during the battle by Wanda who was there when Hulk encountered Thor at the end of #439.

If he regained his full powers during the midst of the battle does that mean he was near powerless for a portion of the battle? Which would make sense with Wanda's statement as during the beginning of the battle he was stated to be nearly powerless. And if that's the case where does Leader come in? I mean if he was given that power through artificial means by the Leader in the midst of the battle clearly he isn't referring to that scene with Hercules.

I flipped through the issue and I don't recall him doing anything to Thor. Or did this revelation come after/before Hulk #440? Or is my comic missing a page?

I'm really confused.

Oh and Thor lost his powers in that same issue a while later did he not? And Thor under this writer, at least I think it's the same writer, doesn't know whether or not he has his powers back. That should be noted. He not too long before this, thought he had his powers when he was in a park with Enchantress but had actually lost them.

My head hurts from this shit.

Well, were tie right now. I proved something about Thanos that you forgot and you proved something about Thor that I forgot.

How did this turn into a Thor vs Thanos thread?
Thanos can beat Superman and all of hes equals one-on-one. Includes Thor and Surfer

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Why is this going. Superman gives Thanos A good fight. But in a KMC neutral zone, he won't have his story to protect him. Thanos will cripple Superman and leave him alive to live in shame.

I don't agree. It is well known that characters don't use their full speed and fighting ability in comics for the sake of the story (Spider-man, SS, Gladiator, etc.) . Going by character's best abilities Thanos has no way to touch Superman. And if Superman gets one hit he will combo him to ko.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
God damnit Quan are you stalking me? I literally was reading #496 when you posted those scans. I read #497 and I was like **** Quan was right.

What does he mean in the midst of the battle and due to Leader? When did this happen? And wasn't it Omnibus that was involved not the Leader?

As clearly the scan you posted of the lightning show were before the battle. And the scan I posted of him being called near powerless was during the battle by Wanda who was there when Hulk encountered Thor at the end of #439.

If he regained his full powers during the midst of the battle does that mean he was near powerless for a portion of the battle? Which would make sense with Wanda's statement as during the beginning of the battle he was stated to be nearly powerless. And if that's the case where does Leader come in? I mean if he was given that power through artificial means by the Leader in the midst of the battle clearly he isn't referring to that scene with Hercules.

I flipped through the issue and I don't recall him doing anything to Thor. Or did this revelation come after/before Hulk #440? Or is my comic missing a page?

I'm really confused.

Oh and Thor lost his powers in that same issue a while later did he not? And Thor under this writer, at least I think it's the same writer, doesn't know whether or not he has his powers back. That should be noted. He not too long before this, thought he had his powers when he was in a park with Enchantress but had actually lost them.

My head hurts from this shit.

Well, were tie right now. I proved something about Thanos that you forgot and you proved something about Thor that I forgot.

Even without Thor 497 it was obvious to me Thor had his full powers back according to the Hulk writer anyways. Thor stamped his hammer and his powers returned. That was always the writer's intention not to confuse the reader and to have a depowered Thor going into the fray against Hulk.

I think the reason was explained afterwards in the Thor comic as to why he received his powers. I think besides the art this was the coolest Thor/Hulk fight ever.

You were right to a point though. I think I'm up by a half point.

It's easy to forget these minor details. No one remembers every comment made in these comics say weeks after reading them let alone months.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think it's safe to assume he wasn't powerless for the entire fight because he'd be no less than a puddle of goo on the floor had the Hulk struck him but once.

Even without Thor 497 it was obvious to me Thor had his full powers back according to the Hulk writer anyways. Thor stamped his hammer and his powers returned. That was always the writer's intention not to confuse the reader and to have a depowered Thor going into the fray against Hulk.

I think the reason was explained afterwards in the Thor comic as to why he received his powers. I think besides the art this was the coolest Thor/Hulk fight ever.

You were right to a point though. I think I'm up by a half point.

It's easy to forget these minor details. No one remembers every comment made in these comics say weeks after reading them let alone months.

It wasn't obvious to me. Honestly, I don't even know what David wanted to pass along. I mean when Thor entered the fray against the Hulk, Wanda came with him, and then next issue we see Wanda state that Thor is nearly powerless, and that's while Thor and the Hulk were already fighting. Meaning they had already traded at least a handful of blows. So yea....

Another problem is that Thor's power set wasn't clear cut. He wasn't either....

1) At Full Power.
2) Mortal.

He fluctuated even in between during that era.

Explained where? The Hulk fight was only mentioned in Thor #497 and it said he received his full power artificially by the Leader in the middle of the fight. After that it doesn't mention it except when he losses it a few pages later.

I honestly cannot see anywhere in that fight, where the Leader came in and gave Thor a power up to full power in the middle of the fight. The scan that you posted, was intended to be, before the fight as well.

How and why?

True enough.

Thanos is to durable and cunning for Superman.

Thanos wins and easily

I just checked the opening post. I thought this was a fight where Thanos was only limited to his physical abilities. Thanos has full use of all of his abilities here?

😐

Thanos shit stomps him.

Why is this thread still going?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It wasn't obvious to me. Honestly, I don't even know what David wanted to pass along. I mean when Thor entered the fray against the Hulk, Wanda came with him, and then next issue we see Wanda state that Thor is nearly powerless, and that's while Thor and the Hulk were already fighting. Meaning they had already traded at least a handful of blows. So yea....

Another problem is that Thor's power set wasn't clear cut. He wasn't either....

1) At Full Power.
2) Mortal.

He fluctuated even in between during that era.

Explained where? The Hulk fight was only mentioned in Thor #497 and it said he received his full power artificially by the Leader in the middle of the fight. After that it doesn't mention it except when he losses it a few pages later.

I honestly cannot see anywhere in that fight, where the Leader came in and gave Thor a power up to full power in the middle of the fight. The scan that you posted, was intended to be, before the fight as well.

How and why?

True enough.

Common sense explains it when you read the issue and factor in their history that he would need to be at full power to battle the Hulk. Even at full power he has never managed to ko the Hulk for good and likewise for the Hulk. This fight is one of the best in comics.

It was a shoddy explanation in Thor, but even prior to that it's obvious he was powered up.

Also, when he started losing his powers and woke up in the park he either had zero powers or them all back. Prior to he was weakened by the tree, but for all intents and purposes he was at full power for their fight like I claimed. It also makes complete sense when you look at their previous fights.

Quan, Rage, please stop this ridiculous comedy. I don't think someone is buying it. Take a Room 😘.

Superman wins. He simply combos Thanos to ko when he gets the first hit in.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman wins. He simply combos Thanos to ko when he gets the first hit in.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably true.

That depends on your definition by a whole lot.

We also have to start differentiating between power and versatility which makes it more difficult because Norrin is so powerful and versatile.

I think its by a whole lot; for every power that Supes has surfer has 20. The gap of power between the two are obvious. Again, if any high herald is on Surfer level its thor; the others are far behind and when I say far, I mean FAR behind.

The only reason Supes is a challenge to people like thor and Surfer is because of his combat speed. If you put thor and supes combat speed on a street leveler speed, Supes would get stomped 10/10 easily.

Originally posted by carver9
I think its by a whole lot; for every power that Supes has surfer has 20. The gap of power between the two are obvious. Again, if any high herald is on Surfer level its thor; the others are far behind and when I say far, I mean FAR behind.

The only reason Supes is a challenge to people like thor and Surfer is because of his combat speed. If you put thor and supes combat speed on a street leveler speed, Supes would get stomped 10/10 easily.