Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Started by abhilegend50 pages
abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Damborgson
At what level were the beings who attacked SF Darkseid?
The combination of Source/ALE? Creators of DCU by that story.
Abstracts also?
That's like saying TOAA is an abstract or Presence is abstract.
Even if Galactus wasn't in his strongest showing there, he's still an abstract himself. He'd fed on a planet recently also.
That doesn't mean he was at Source level much less Source/ALE combination.

He went through emperor Joker sure, but did it do any damage?
He went through Emperor Joker, is that less impressive because it didn't do any damage?
From that particular scan you're showing, it's impressive but not as much as knocking out the Phoenix Force.
I wouldn't bet on it. Phoenix force for an abstract level being has terrible durability. Lets just leave it at that.

Those took multiple shots to accompish though correct?
Yes
Because while in an of itself, that reality breaking feat from Thor isn't as impressive, it wasn't an extended battle like Kal-el and Kal-l were having. it was just a swift swak that broke reality enough for the creature to get sucked through the cracks.
Its not that impressive because in one they broke time space and the boundaries of reality everywhere. Thor made a hole in reality, that's not that un-common. Wonder woman has done that too along with power girl.

*shrug* it's one of those things I guess. Same could be said about cosmic death and Phoenix Force. "The guys who got Ko'd and run through and ko'd by Superman and Thor? "
Demogorge doesn't have any feats to suggest he's an abstract. His nature is to devour gods and yet he was stalemated by an Elder god Set for millenia. At best he's a skyfather level being.

Diesldude Senior Member
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Don't be mad at me that superman's record against moons is a little shaky

This dude's made trolling an ART.. 👆

Zack Fair Fanboy

Must be the eons old Char ava.

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

IIRC it was stated on panel that EACH punch landed was causing reality to change.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by abhilegend
Demogorge, an abstract? The guy who got killed by that skrull god?

The 3 Skrull Gods were being possessed/powered by 999 gods.

@Damborgson: SF Darkseid was stalemating the Source in that story. He's a peer to high-end Abstracts like Eternity. Way above the likes of Galactus and a Celestial.
Edit: The PF also has questionable durability, as pointed out by abhi. Not that that takes away from what Thor did, it just isn't as impressive when one looks at the firebird's past record of getting blown up into billions of pieces by Xornetto.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The 3 Skrull Gods were being possessed/powered by 999 gods.

@Damborgson: SF Darkseid was stalemating the Source in that story. He's a peer to high-end Abstracts like Eternity. Way above the likes of Galactus and a Celestial.
Edit: The PF also has questionable durability, as pointed out by abhi. Not that that takes away from what Thor did, it just isn't as impressive when one looks at the firebird's past record of getting blown up into billions of pieces by Xornetto.


Snowbird by taking the form of a great beast was taking on them all by herself. The god who killed demogorge was also killed by a still God Mikaboshi. I don't see how anyone can say Demogorge is an abstract. He just doesn't have the feats to support such an asinine idea.

Yeah and Shiar laser did the same, Xorn shattered it with a planetary EMP. All scans thanks to Mr. Master

"I thought I was Dead, in a Billion Billion pieces".

Also

A Few members of the X-Men and Ultra Force (six in all)
are sent to battle the actual Phoenix Force (host-less) ... this is the real deal.

.................................

"The assembled Heroes are tired & battered,
the Phoenix (no host) is reborn and fresh"

And they're still holding their own! 👆

The Six heroes beat (physically) the Phoenix Force (no host) into and through the Portal:

The Phoenix Force ends up displaced by Four Billion Years:

Shiar making PF their ***** again

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1807411/pf2rm9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1807412/pf4li2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1807413/pf5oq4.jpg.html

PF in its true form just doesn't have any good durability feats considering its stature and power level.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Why are we reposting Mr Master's scan-bombs in here?

carver9 Senior Member

Thor hammer strikes>Clark's fist>Thor fist.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
Why are we reposting Mr Master's scan-bombs in here?

Just for fun, I guess. For once maybe someone would read it.😛

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Why are we reposting Mr Master's scan-bombs in here?
why? Are you jealous?

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for fun, I guess. For once maybe someone would read it.😛
I read his posts. I sometimes don't agree with their content but they are always a good read

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for fun, I guess. For once maybe someone would read it.😛
😂 Ya right.

Originally posted by Diesldude
why? Are you jealous?
Nope, just tired of seeing the same junk over and over.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
😂 Ya right.

Nope, just tired of seeing the same junk over and over.


How dare you call Master's blood junk? Scans run in master's veins, do you get it? GET IT?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Oh, I've got it. 😉

carver9 Senior Member

Masters is one of (if not) the best debatars on KMC. He makes good arguments and back it up with concrete scans. Haters 😉

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

He is a good debater(when he's thinking rationally.) However, he's been using the same exact copied/pasted replies for several years. Look at any thread he debates against GS in, for example. It just... gets old, I suppose.

Not hating, just stating the obvious.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh, I've got it. 😉

Prove it by posting at least 50 CROPPED scans.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
He is a good debater(when he's thinking rationally.) However, he's been using the same exact copied/pasted replies for several years. Look at any thread he debates against GS in, for example. It just... gets old, I suppose.

Not hating, just stating the obvious.

He mainly debates on Phoenix though which means he is limited on the scans he can present since the PF is a character that doesn't show up as frequently as other characters. So I can kind of understand why you'll see the same scans from him, especially if the topic circles around the scans he is presenting.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Guys, back on topic please.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Superman wins, clearly... Thought we figured that out about 19 pages ago..?