Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Started by Dolos50 pages
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I highly doubt that Superman will develop a vast array of powers in the DCnU outside of that which he already possesses. His edge lies in his methods of utilizing his powers in different ways. His heat vision can be used offensively, as a surgical tool, mechanical repair, etc. but it's still heat vision.

Every power he's developed is the result of an activated metagene, a mutation caused by yellow sunlight. The reason he stopped making new super powers is perhaps because of A: psionic mental blocks, and B: his exposure to yellow sunlight. If he were to become extremely aware of his solar-genesis, he could manipulate it - gaining new powers without even going sun-dip - that's not an option because it will force him to become an energy being as the yellow sunlight causes supercharged mitoses and then apoptosis, and cell death. It's not impossible that he could develop some conscious influence over his genetic structure, given Kryptonians have done other telepathic things, like H'el manipulating Superboy's DnA and atoms. It's not impossible either that he's developed or could develop radio-solar awareness like in All-star Superman, making him a non-corporeal matter and energy manipulator - also able to manipulate his DnA.

Ban Dolos.

😂

Originally posted by -Pr-

It's always great to have another Superfan on the forum, though.

Citing non-canon/mainstream stories or alternate realities where Superman gets new powers doesn't mean his power set can just be extrapolated to unknown levels and degrees of scope. Unless Superman gets near a blue sun or gets some kind of absurd amp outside of the norm, he's not going to just get new powers. And Superman basically manipulating his DNA structure to become more powerful is even less likely.

We've seen enough from mainstream/canon books to know that Superman's power set will almost always be static (in terms of what powers he possesses, not the level of them) barring extremely special circumstances.

So is it agreed that Superman can hit harder?

Mjolnir slam wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I don't think ABHI knows the difference between a bullrush and a punch. What he did to Darkseid wasn't a punch.

Lulz.

Originally posted by Dolos
So is it agreed that Superman can hit harder?
No.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I highly doubt that Superman will develop a vast array of powers in the DCnU outside of that which he already possesses. His edge lies in his methods of utilizing his powers in different ways. His heat vision can be used offensively, as a surgical tool, mechanical repair, etc. but it's still heat vision.

Yup.

Originally posted by Dolos
Every power he's developed is the result of an activated metagene, a mutation caused by yellow sunlight. The reason he stopped making new super powers is perhaps because of A: psionic mental blocks, and B: his exposure to yellow sunlight. If he were to become extremely aware of his solar-genesis, he could manipulate it - gaining new powers without even going sun-dip - that's not an option because it will force him to become an energy being as the yellow sunlight causes supercharged mitoses and then apoptosis, and cell death. It's not impossible that he could develop some conscious influence over his genetic structure, given Kryptonians have done other telepathic things, like H'el manipulating Superboy's DnA and atoms. It's not impossible either that he's developed or could develop radio-solar awareness like in All-star Superman, making him a non-corporeal matter and energy manipulator - also able to manipulate his DnA.

You're trying to attribute abilities to him that he simply hasn't shown himself as having, tbh.

Besides, like I said, we go by what they have done, not what they can maybe do in future.

If we did, Surfer would be the undisputed top herald.

Originally posted by Dolos
Every power he's developed is the result of an activated metagene, a mutation caused by yellow sunlight. The reason he stopped making new super powers is perhaps because of A: psionic mental blocks, and B: his exposure to yellow sunlight. If he were to become extremely aware of his solar-genesis, he could manipulate it - gaining new powers without even going sun-dip - that's not an option because it will force him to become an energy being as the yellow sunlight causes supercharged mitoses and then apoptosis, and cell death. It's not impossible that he could develop some conscious influence over his genetic structure, given Kryptonians have done other telepathic things, like H'el manipulating Superboy's DnA and atoms. It's not impossible either that he's developed or could develop radio-solar awareness like in All-star Superman, making him a non-corporeal matter and energy manipulator - also able to manipulate his DnA.
Are... are you from a future timeline... 😕 ...where these things have actually happened?

WHAT are you?

I feel like this guy right now;

YouTube video

Durok the Demolisher.
In his initial appearances, he beat on Thor (with Mjolnir) and the Silver Surfer. They were unable to defeat him. In the end, the only option, was for Surfer to send Durok into the far future, where Earth was a completely dead world.

During Ragnarok, Loki summoned Durok to his armies.

At this time, Thor did not have Mjolnir, but he had to battle Durok.

These panels do not, specifically show Thor punching, but it should give some food for thought to those who feel that he is not as dangerous without Mjolnir. Obviously, he can be more so.

If Thor is allowed to whirl the hammer before striking, gaining speed and momentum until his heart's content, while Superman just stands still and punches, then of course Thor may hit harder. But that's not a fair comparison since we should be talking about application in a comic fight or forum fight. Superman can gain extra hitting power by flying into the punch (using flight strength to back up natural strength). Superman has many times used flight when throwing punches. Same as Thor whirling Mjolnir before striking.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Thor is allowed to whirl the hammer before striking, gaining speed and momentum until his heart's content, while Superman just stands still and punches, then of course Thor may hit harder. But that's not a fair comparison since we should be talking about application in a comic fight or forum fight. Superman can gain extra hitting power by flying into the punch (using flight strength to back up natural strength). Superman has many times used flight when throwing punches. Same as Thor whirling Mjolnir before striking.

If you want to bring up other powers, what's stopping Thor from flying or charging the hammer etc etc etc?

Originally posted by Dolos
I feel like this guy right now;

YouTube video

the creationist?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Durok the Demolisher.
In his initial appearances, he beat on Thor (with Mjolnir) and the Silver Surfer. They were unable to defeat him. In the end, the only option, was for Surfer to send Durok into the far future, where Earth was a completely dead world.

During Ragnarok, Loki summoned Durok to his armies.

At this time, Thor did not have Mjolnir, but he had to battle Durok.

These panels do not, specifically show Thor punching, but it should give some food for thought to those who feel that he is not as dangerous without Mjolnir. Obviously, he can be more so.

fallacious abc arguing.

1. It is not the fact that x beats on y but the how the battle went.
2. Durability and offense are two different things. Boards don't hit back.
3. Characters job, and power levels fluctuate from comic to comic. You should see all the dumb ass characters Thor and Surfer had problems with in their history.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to bring up other powers, what's stopping Thor from flying or charging the hammer etc etc etc?
charging the hammer wouldn't make him STRIKE HARDER. Superman can fly accelerate far quicker in flight than Thor with Mjlonir.

I wasn't referring to Superman flying from afar to generate momentum but rather start up close and personal and just fly into his punch. A more natural and practical thing.

Originally posted by h1a8
fallacious abc arguing.

1. It is not the fact that x beats on y but the how the battle went.
2. Durability and offense are two different things. Boards don't hit back.
3. Characters job, and power levels fluctuate from comic to comic. You should see all the dumb ass characters Thor and Surfer had problems with in their history.

i'm sorry. as soon as i saw that you don't agree with me, i stopped reading your post. 😕

but, the good news is, that i really liked what i posted. so i read THAT several more times. 😄 i highly recommend it to other forum members.

Originally posted by Horrificus
i'm sorry. as soon as i saw that you don't agree with me, i stopped reading your post. 😕

but, the good news is, that i really liked what i posted. so i read THAT several more times. 😄 i highly recommend it to other forum members.

I like your style. 👆