Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Started by OneDumbG050 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think a marvel editor did back it up as being canon. You can't just use sloppy writing as your only source of proof why it isn't canon.
Not to my recollection, no. And being "sloppy, but true" would hold weight if we didn't have the perfectly reasonable alternative explanation that JLA/Avengers simply did not involve the 616-Universe but involved an alternate Marvel universe.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Not to my recollection, no. And being "sloppy, but true" would hold weight if we didn't have the perfectly reasonable alternative explanation that JLA/Avengers simply did not involve the 616-Universe but involved an alternate Marvel universe.
Who stated this?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't have one. When you even up the score I'll name another. Right now it's my one really impressive feat vs. nothing. I understand why I just feel it's silly not use something in continuity.

so do many other people. that doesnt mean we should allow it, though.

Originally posted by carver9
To me it circled around him and honestly I dont see anything wrong with that since he is the hero's of all heros.

it was more about the artifacts than anything else, to me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
so do many other people. that doesnt mean we should allow it, though.

it was more about the artifacts than anything else, to me.

K.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Not to my recollection, no. And being "sloppy, but true" would hold weight if we didn't have the perfectly reasonable alternative explanation that JLA/Avengers simply did not involve the 616-Universe but involved an alternate Marvel universe.
Except that instances involving the story were written into character bios in the Marvel Handbooks. Such as Pulsar and Gamesmaster.

^ Off-handed throw-away lines in bios don't overrule on-panel proof. And the on-panel proof that certain artifacts couldn't have been where they were in JLA/Avengers is undeniable. Hence, it did not involve 616-Universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who stated this?
It's the only reasonable explanation considering the circumstances. Same as how Spawn/Batman didn't involve New Earth Batman either.

Also, ODG's argument is exactly why we don't use it on the forum, even if people believe it's canon. we don't want pages and pages to be devoted to arguing something's canonicity...

oh god, who the hell felt the need to bring up that phucking cross-over?

^ Just when I was preparing a long-winded essay. uhuh

... not really. biscuits

Ok, back on topic. Here's one example of the power of a Mjolnir slam. In Thor #388, he tries to attack the Celestial called Exitar, the Exterminator. Although Exitar's durability absorbs the blow and only a small hole is created, the shockwaves are pretty well-described and are some indication of its power:

Sick sick feat.... Kinda, sorta has a speedfeat there (reflex wise) since he's spinning Mjolnir at superhuman speeds. interesting....

Those days are gone.

^That isn't the only time Thor's broken through Celestial Armor. Here a pissed off, non amped Thor breaks through Celestial armor in a single blow.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials1.jpg

In the last page, it shrugged off a blow from the Odin Destroyer armor that could shatter planets.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestial7.jpg

To add to this thread before I go:

Thor shatters through reality:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShattersReality2.jpg

Shakes the heavens with a blow. It's stated if they were on Asgard the blow would have turned it into dust.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ShakestheHeavens.jpg

His blows with the Destroyer shake all of Asgard.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer31.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer32.jpg

Hits with planet shattering force.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Aplanetbuster.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Aplanetbuster4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Aplanetbuster5.jpg

Can tear apart a world.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Aplanetbuster2.jpg

His fists can wreck worlds.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AplanetBuster3.jpg

He has more impressive feats, but I'm on my laptop and I don't have them on the hard drive unfortunately.

I think it's safe to say Thor is a planet buster, like most high heralds really should be.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Just when I was preparing a long-winded essay. uhuh

... not really. biscuits

Ok, back on topic. Here's one example of the power of a Mjolnir slam. In Thor #388, he tries to attack the Celestial called Exitar, the Exterminator. Although Exitar's durability absorbs the blow and only a small hole is created, the shockwaves are pretty well-described and are some indication of its power:

😎 btw this also prove he dint hit that adamatium bar with his full power back in the lab

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Those days are gone.
Only by using a baseless, completely artificial and convenient suggestion that only the past 20 years of Thor from 1989-2009 exist in Marvel continuity and thus a feat from 1988 (like the one above) magically vanishes like a leprechaun and has been declared by you to have never happened.

A non-holding back Superman punches harder. Punching through dimensions under his own power is saying something, as well as casually punching a 1600lb being through two harder than steel thick walls AFTER REACHING SPACE.

But Thor is not far behind. Especially knowing that the hammer cheats for Thor and supplies extra strength to Thor's own when Thor is swinging it. This is because the hammer can move on its own as if it is living, all based on Thor's command of it.

Also one must know that for Thor to hit really really hard he must hurl the hammer faster and faster before delivering the hit. This is like someone receiving a running start. Don't let Superman get a running start.

^Quit it with all the theories and assumptions please. Post best hitting feat before making conclusions.

Can someone please post Superman's best punching feats? And not FLYING-into-something-with-hands-extended feats. Punching feats as the thread title specifies.

Also, can we include BRB feats as Thor hitting feats (as they are both equal)?

thor

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Only by using a baseless, completely artificial and convenient suggestion that only the past 20 years of Thor from 1989-2009 exist in Marvel continuity and thus a feat from 1988 (like the one above) magically vanishes like a leprechaun and has been declared by you to have never happened.

👆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Only by using a baseless, completely artificial and convenient suggestion that only the past 20 years of Thor from 1989-2009 exist in Marvel continuity and thus a feat from 1988 (like the one above) magically vanishes like a leprechaun and has been declared by you to have never happened.

who said they did?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
^Quit it with all the theories and assumptions please. Post best hitting feat before making conclusions.

Can someone please post Superman's best punching feats? And not FLYING-into-something-with-hands-extended feats. Punching feats as the thread title specifies.

Also, can we include BRB feats as Thor hitting feats (as they are both equal)?

punching through john stewart's construct that was designed to hold him. hurting darkseid, mongul, doomsday, wonder woman. punching captain marvel from california to hawaii with such force that it still left a sonic boom when he reached hawaii. punching earth 2 superman so hard that reality was damaged during IC. beating the last brainiac.

thats off the top of my head.