Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, you deny what happened. Stop playing games.
really? and what happened aside from KK getting his face broken by batman? another fight where they are even, another fight where batman gets the upper hand.. you want to tell me in all those3 fights KK was in coma? wow thats amazing every time he needs to fight batman he is awaking from coma? give me a break
i know about 3 fights, first one the one we both posted where they are even , second one is the other one i posted where batman gets the upper hand , third one is the fight i cant find but karate kid was wearing white outfit and batman landed more strikes on him and had the upper hand , if there was another fight i dont know about i would love to see it
Captain America fighting skills is roughly on Batman level. Didn't Karate kid defeat Batman if he did Karate take this because they are few being in the Marvel universe that are masters of all forms of martial arts. Batman is use to fighting people that have his level of skills because they are more being in the DC universe who are masters of all forms of marital arts such has Lady Shiva, Bane, Bronze tiger and much more.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, the guy had amnesia(if that's how you spell it). Lets see how Captain America will fight against a guy when he has amnesia and just got woken up.
And don't forget that amnesiac Val was Morticoccus-infected. So the analogue would be say amnesiac Cap sans-SSS (though not dystrophy (spelling?), of course, but not optimal physical conditions) vs say Daredevil IN DAREDEVIL'S own comics. When Karate Kid's fights are often attributed to PIS, well...it's one's opinion, but sometimes he faces "Popularity Power" which is nearly unstoppable thing (and is responsible for a huge bit of the rep of shieldless Cap and Wolverine as unstoppable unbeatable fighters).
In fact, "know ALL the MAs" is BS when it comes to real fight, as most good fighters who know fair number pick something from here and something from there and make their own fighting style...90% of the knowledge of multiple disciplines is redundant as human body and the number of things you can do with it is limited (comics books introduce extraterrestial MAs, that helps a bit in that).
Val is uber not because of quantity, but of quality. His primary discipline is what he calls "Super Karare" but in reality it's more like "Hokuto Shiken in western comics" (AKA performing clearly superhuman feats via pressure points and chi manipulation). It was a synthesis of majority known MAs in 30th century galaxy (practised not only on Earth, but also on the planets with different physical parameters- like high gravity ones, or dark heavily clouded atmosphere ones).
Originally posted by SamZED
I think you're missing Valtiz's main point guys, even if KK was winning the fight against Bats (which obviously can be argued) it still only makes him a slightly better fighter than Bruce and that does NOT make him a match for Superboy, or even Spider-man..
finally someone who understand my point 🙂
Originally posted by SamZEDAgreed ^
I think you're missing Valtiz's main point guys, even if KK was winning the fight against Bats (which obviously can be argued) it still only makes him a slightly better fighter than Bruce and that does NOT make him a match for Superboy, or even Spider-man..
Karate Kid take this fight 7/10 🙂
Karate Kid would be a match for Spidey, at least PC Karate Kid (who managed to fight PC Superboy for a little while (WTF?)). Modern KK could keep Pete on his toes though he'd probably lose in the end.
The Karate Kid that fought Bruce was far from 100%, he was groggy, amnesiac, and by all indications tired. Also Batman was clearly taking the greater beating during the course of the fight.