Originally posted by Omega Vision
Karate Kid would be a match for Spidey, at least PC Karate Kid (who managed to fight PC Superboy for a little while (WTF?)). Modern KK could keep Pete on his toes though he'd probably lose in the end.
The Karate Kid that fought Bruce was far from 100%, he was groggy, amnesiac, and by all indications tired. Also Batman was clearly taking the greater beating during the course of the fight.
really? so you are saying he was after coma and suffering from amnesia all the 3 fights they had? get out of here and dont make me laugh 🙄
Originally posted by Omega Vision
As I said above Karate Kid wasn't at his best when Batman fought him, not even close.
Nobody's ever at their best when they fight Batman because he has to have a chance to win, even when he's vastly overpowered due to being a human with no super abilities.
His feats really shouldn't be a factor because his humanity is his superpower that allows him to win 97% of his fights no matter who he's fighting....Cap is not Batmans equal if you're looking at comic book evidence. (not including the voted battle between them of course.)
OK, on Spiderman. He can't effectively fight top tier MAs, don't know how bloodlust changes that in pure H2H, cage type match and Karate Kid vs Wolverine is either spite or (if BS about pressure points not working on Wolvie canon) Wolverine wins due to having better stamina (Cap has infinite stamina, but pressure points work on him just as well as on normal human).
Karate Kid's showings against Kryptonians\Daxamites were either sparring matches or the ones against mindcontrolled foes. Also they're mostly stalemate (that's the reason Karate Kid is not herald tier anymore in KMC tier table).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
OK, on Spiderman. He can't effectively fight top tier MAs, don't know how bloodlust changes that in pure H2H, cage type match and Karate Kid vs Wolverine is either spite or (if BS about pressure points not working on Wolvie canon) Wolverine wins due to having better stamina (Cap has infinite stamina, but pressure points work on him just as well as on normal human).Karate Kid's showings against Kryptonians\Daxamites were either sparring matches or the ones against mindcontrolled foes. Also they're mostly stalemate (that's the reason Karate Kid is not herald tier anymore in KMC tier table).
spider-man can and will beat any martial artist because PIS off spider-man will be and should be too fast to be even touched by them , they are fast but they are still humanly fast spider-man is above human much above human in speed and agility adding the spider sense is an overkill vs any human
Originally posted by valtiz
spider-man can and will beat any martial artist because PIS off spider-man will be and should be too fast to be even touched by them , they are fast but they are still humanly fast spider-man is above human much above human in speed and agility adding the spider sense is an overkill vs any human
Blah-blah-blah... so you do believe he wins 10\10 against upgraded Iron Fist or Kenshiro (sorry for going into manga, but that's the closest analogue to optimal Karate Kid, and upgraded Iron Fist is the closest MU example)? IMO stalemate at best, if we're talking h2h with no webbing, getting owned at worst.
Chi speedups rule, darling. Want to have battlezone?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
OK, on Spiderman. He can't effectively fight top tier MAs, don't know how bloodlust changes that in pure H2H, cage type match and Karate Kid vs Wolverine is either spite or (if BS about pressure points not working on Wolvie canon) Wolverine wins due to having better stamina (Cap has infinite stamina, but pressure points work on him just as well as on normal human).Karate Kid's showings against Kryptonians\Daxamites were either sparring matches or the ones against mindcontrolled foes. Also they're mostly stalemate (that's the reason Karate Kid is not herald tier anymore in KMC tier table).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Blah-blah-blah... so you do believe he wins 10\10 against upgraded Iron Fist or Kenshiro (sorry for going into manga, but that's the closest analogue to optimal Karate Kid, and upgraded Iron Fist is the closest MU example)? IMO stalemate at best, if we're talking h2h with no webbing, getting owned at worst.
Chi speedups rule, darling. Want to have battlezone?
first of all chi amping or no chi amping it doesnt give you super abilities at the level spider-man has, he got spider sense that warn him and super speed and agility no martial artist should be able to even touch him he is beyond any human ability and any human and yes he can beat iron fist because his chi amp doesnt give him super speed at the levels of spider-man it amps his punch
what the hell is battlezone