Thor's Godblast vs Superman's most powerfull HV shot

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't bother, the only way his interpretation works is if we assume the God Blast was never even used in his fight with Galactus but some other completely unknown shit that can be defined as the power of Odin and is not in anyway applicable to Thor or re-retconned by future showings.

Why you ask would someone take such a retarded stance? Because it's the only way to nullify the feat. Also, Superman.

That means the score between Odin and Galactus is 1-1 according to Abhimmm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I get what you're saying. I just think it's stupid.

Worst case scenario, the power origin of the God Blast was retconned into being a part of the actual Odin Force (I'm not going to assume some other attack that was never mentioned or hinted at happened). Unfortunately, the God Blast has been used since and has once again been specified as being Thor's life force.

In the end, it doesn't matter if you consider it Odin's power or Thor's power primarily, the feats are still there. The origin of the power is irrelevant as long as it can be summoned.

Final statement? Says who? You? That would require warping logic to suit your interpretation specifically.

It was specifically stated to be Odin's power and not godblast. If the writer intended godblast to be odin's power, he would've plainly stated it when he went to such measures to retcon this feat. It wasn't godblast, it was Odin's power.

Yeah, it matters. Godblast was never used against galactus by this retcon untill recent thor annual.

FYI the last time Thor using godblast against galactus was mentioned, it was in Thor 412 which came one month earlier to Thor annual 14 from which this scan is taken making this the final statement about that feat.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Well, seeing how the Odinforce used to be desribed as the very lifeblood of all Asgard during those times, and how Mimir explained that Odin gave all Asgardians their life-force, technically speaking it would be a portion of Odin's power.

Originally posted by Damborgson

There actually was a mention of Odin during the attack but that's about it. Still his power he used to "smite" galactus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't bother, the only way his interpretation works is if we assume the God Blast was never even used in his fight with Galactus but some other completely unknown shit that can be defined as the power of Odin and is not in anyway applicable to Thor or re-retconned by future showings.

Why you ask would someone take such a retarded stance? Because it's the only way to nullify the feat. Also, Superman.

Odinforce is in Mjolnir.

He calls upon the power of Odin whenever he uses Mjolnir.

Odin's genes are in Thor.

He calls upon the power of Odin whenever he does anything.

🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know anything about a retcon?

I do. And what you posted isn't one. No matter how much you'd like it to be, which is the point of you posting in the first place. Heaven forbid Thor's attack > Superman's right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Retcons are almost always stupid.

It was specifically stated to be Odin's power and not godblast. If the writer intended godblast to be odin's power, he would've plainly stated it when he went to such measures to retcon this feat. It wasn't godblast, it was Odin's power.

Yeah, it matters. Godblast was never used against galactus by this retcon untill recent thor annual.

FYI the last time Thor using godblast against galactus was mentioned, it was in Thor 412 which came one month earlier to Thor annual 14 from which this scan is taken making this the final statement about that feat.

While this retcon is a bit silly, it's not stupid. Your interpretation of the statement is.

I don't even know how that makes sense. It was a long time before the God Blast even had an actual name. The intent is clear, the attack Thor unleashed against Galactus was powered by Odin. Anything more than that is you inserting stupid shit unnecessarily.

I haven't gotten to the spin that the comic was not an actual retcon of sorts because all of Thor's power is technically Odin's. Calling on the power of Odin is simply how Thor describes an attack that yet had no actual name or definitive trait. 🙂

Lol, okay I get it. Thor waved his hammer and summoned Odin to blast Galactus. I think that's an even more impressive ultimate move.

Actually, I'm pretty sure #412 was released a month after the annual. I'd have to double check my comics but you can find that info online if you want. Thanks for proving how utterly pointless and meaningless that little box of text is when it's ignored in the following month though.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Don't act like a butthurt. I'm just saying what was stated in the comic, nothing more nothing less. You have a problem with it, go cry to Peter Sanderson who wrote this.

I'm not butthurt and you aren't just some messenger delivering a letter either. You opened the package, rewrote the info, and tried to pass off the mess as the original.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I do. And what you posted isn't one. No matter how much you'd like it to be, which is the point of you posting in the first place. Heaven forbid Thor's attack > Superman's right?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
While this retcon is a bit silly, it's not stupid. Your interpretation of the statement is.

I don't even know how that makes sense. It was a long time before the God Blast even had an actual name. The intent is clear, the attack Thor unleashed against Galactus was powered by Odin. Anything more than that is you inserting stupid shit unnecessarily.

I haven't gotten to the spin that the comic was not an actual retcon of sorts because all of Thor's power is technically Odin's. Calling on the power of Odin is simply how Thor describes an attack that yet had no actual name or definitive trait. 🙂

Lol, okay I get it. Thor waved his hammer and summoned Odin to blast Galactus. I think that's an even more impressive ultimate move.

Actually, I'm pretty sure #412 was released a month after the annual. I'd have to double check my comics but you can find that info online if you want. Thanks for proving how utterly pointless and meaningless that little box of text is when it's ignored in the following month though.

Like I said if you don't like it, be my guest.

Go here

http://comicbookdb.com/character_chron.php?ID=204

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know anything about a retcon?

The point of the scan that Damborgson posted was to show that Thor was invoking Odin when he was about to do the God Blast attack.The scan you posted was more attributed to a College student barely passing in order to graduate.Then said student would say "by the grace of god" as the reason he/she passed.Thor was being humble in the scan you posted when he mentioned Odin's power or so.

Again, not much of a retcon.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not butthurt and you aren't just some messenger delivering a letter either. You opened the package, rewrote the info, and tried to pass off the mess as the original.

😂

I didn't change anything AT ALL. You can read, can't you?

What is the actual debate here? That Thor didn't use the godblast, or something?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you do. I am not even interested in the thread topic anymore and I've already said that godblast is ore powerful in general.

What you think is irrelevant tbh. More powerful in general yes. and overall.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you do. I am not even interested in the thread topic anymore and I've already said that godblast is ore powerful in general.
Yeah, no. I'm taking the statement as it was used in the comic i.e. no mention of godblast at all.

Like I said if you don't like it, be my guest.

Go here

http://comicbookdb.com/character_chron.php?ID=204

Nope, you're dumb. And as someone who has had extensive discussions with Carver and Quanchi, I'm sorry to say that it's an incurable condition.

CDB lists annual lasts, that doesn't mean they came out in the end. Thor #411 and #412 came out in December 1989. How would it even make sense for Annual #14 to be released in 1989, but a month later? Check your own sources. The annual was released in November 1989.

It's a bit funny though, I probably wouldn't have cared enough to mention Juggernaut and would have kept debating your flawed logic.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What is the actual debate here? That Thor didn't use the godblast, or something?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't bother, the only way his interpretation works is if we assume the God Blast was never even used in his fight with Galactus but some other completely unknown shit that can be defined as the power of Odin and is not in anyway applicable to Thor or re-retconned by future showings.

Why you ask would someone take such a retarded stance? Because it's the only way to nullify the feat. Also, Superman.

Originally posted by Igniz
The point of the scan that Damborgson posted was to show that Thor was invoking Odin when he was about to do the God Blast attack.The scan you posted was more attributed to a College student barely passing in order to graduate.Then said student would say "by the grace of god" as the reason he/she passed.Thor was being humble in the scan you posted when he mentioned Odin's power or so.

Again, not much of a retcon.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut14.jpg

A month after that Annual. Thank you Abhil.

I really don't see how "calling on the power of odin" disqualifies it from being the god blast at all.

And that's without taking in to account Thor literally using the words "god force" against Juggernaut.

Hmmmm.

Are you saying that Thor can call on Odin's power at will now?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope, you're dumb. And as someone who has had extensive discussions with Carver and Quanchi, I'm sorry to say that it's an incurable condition.

CDB lists annual lasts, that doesn't mean they came out in the end. Thor #411 and #412 came out in December 1989. How would it even make sense for Annual #14 to be released in 1989, but a month later? Check your own sources. The annual was released in November 1989.

It's a bit funny though, I probably wouldn't have cared enough to mention Juggernaut and would have kept debating your flawed logic.

Yeah, I checked its release date and you're right. It was released in November 1989, doesn't changes anything though.

Originally posted by Damborgson
What you think is irrelevant tbh. More powerful in general yes. and overall.