Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Shut up. No you weren't. You're just a butthurt, incurable dumb hater who likes to tickle my bum. This close away from a ban.You don't understand. I'm saying that Thor performed an energy blast, and it was simply powered by Odin (If you assume it was a retcon that is, could clearly be interpreted as what Damborg was saying). If we assume anything else, it will just be complete speculation.
Yeah, I am just stating what was directly said in the comic. You can accept it or don't, I don't care about your opinion any way.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
SOme people clearly have no clue about Juggs... Juggs has been written without a shield or even being able to call upon one. So this notion that with the shield he's so much more uber than without is without basis. Juggs has just as good durability feats without the shield than with. True, there are a tad more low showings without than with, but higher showings are about the same.
What are you talking about? There was a fight where Thor beat the crud out of him by removing his force field. Before the force field removal he just couldn't hurt Juggs at all.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThe same force field less Juggernaut has gone toe to toe with Nightmare and WWH 😛
What are you talking about? There was a fight where Thor beat the crud out of him by removing his force field. Before the force field removal he just couldn't hurt Juggs at all.
I do admit Cain has more low showings without his forcefield than with but I honestly don't think Thor's magical remover attack there only took Jugg's FF away. I think it depowered him all around.
Heck in a Thunderbolts Issue a depowered Juggernaut was fairing slightly better against Thor w/ Hammer than Juggernaut did in hte comic you are citing.
King Hyperion broke his hand on a depwoered Jugegrnaut's head. Not that I think KH is in Thor's class but he isn't weak.
Originally posted by Newjak
The same force field less Juggernaut has gone toe to toe with Nightmare and WWH 😛I do admit Cain has more low showings without his forcefield than with but I honestly don't think Thor's magical remover attack there only took Jugg's FF away. I think it depowered him all around.
Heck in a Thunderbolts Issue a depowered Juggernaut was fairing slightly better against Thor w/ Hammer than Juggernaut did in hte comic you are citing.
King Hyperion broke his hand on a depwoered Jugegrnaut's head. Not that I think KH is in Thor's class but he isn't weak.
The forcefield fight was weird.
In theory Cain shouldn't have much of anything if he's cut off from Cyttorak. Forget forcefield, I'm surprised he still had super strength!
That being said, the 60 second enchantment should not have mattered where they fought, but yeah, easy to forget I guess.
Originally posted by Newjak
I do admit Cain has more low showings without his forcefield than with but I honestly don't think Thor's magical remover attack there only took Jugg's FF away. I think it depowered him all around.Heck in a Thunderbolts Issue a depowered Juggernaut was fairing slightly better against Thor w/ Hammer than Juggernaut did in hte comic you are citing.
King Hyperion broke his hand on a depwoered Jugegrnaut's head. Not that I think KH is in Thor's class but he isn't weak.
What makes you think it depowered him all around and not just the shield?
Depends on how you see better. Thor basically beat the crap out of him. Juggs scored a single hit near the end which didn't eve inconvenience Thor.
Hype is strong definitely. He was also stupid for punching his peer in power right in the skull. Thor gave Juggernaut a beating like the warrior he is.
Originally posted by DamborgsonLike I said it just seems like such a huge drop off in Juggs durability for Thor to all of sudden be busting Juggs like that simply cause they took his shield.
What makes you think it depowered him all around and not just the shield?Depends on how you see better. Thor basically beat the crap out of him. Juggs scored a single hit near the end which didn't eve inconvenience Thor.
Hype is strong definitely. He was also stupid for punching his peer in power right in the skull. Thor gave Juggernaut a beating like the warrior he is.
Especially since he has traded blows with different versions of Hulk without incident, Nightmare as well. all shield less or no mention of the shield.
He did better in that he took a 60 second beat down and was still getting up, when a supposedly full powered Juggernaut was about to fall. 😛