Prison time

Started by valtiz7 pages

Originally posted by Blanket
Tbh, Kingpin doesn't need more than anything besides his bulk/skills to run this prison against ordinary men.

Yes he has brains and manipulation skills going for him, but honestly? 😬
The guy was beating up Spider-Man, and can crush a human's head.

I'm of the opinion that he needs nothing else, and of the opinion that if Thor is anywhere near him, he won't either.

your logic is so childish... again i will ask you how is mass and strength will prevent you from getting stubbed? if kind pin or thor fight at least 3 people they will get stubbed and killed while king pin will beat up 1 guy the other 2 will jump him and just cut his throat or stub him in the neck or the heart and this is prison chances are he will fight 20-50 at the same time and they will take him apart

Originally posted by redhotrash
Absorbing falls into that "muscle for hire" bit. And also guys like him might be dumb as a box of rocks on the outside, in prison they are like fish in water. Falls more under the "street smarts" portion. Which is why Thor gets shanked by day 3. People who are the man on the outside have the hardest time coping with prison life. Listen to "Captive honor" by megadeth for a musical example of this. Anyway, Kingpin's size and skill again isnt what gets him through. Hes a crime lord. These people regularly work for him. He hangs out with Bullseye and Crossbones. No one messes with him because he has the most muscle following him around, he has the right sense for it, and he can use intimidation better than anyone (threatening their families and such on the outside). Kingpin will essentially run this prison by the time he gets out.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
People were even afraid of Kangaroo.

lmfao at people thinking Thor doesn't have any skill because he uses his hammer for hitting 😐

I'm sorry but, what?

Kingpin has a crime empire. Superman has the most powerful league on his back. Thor's got freaking hundreds of thousands of gods that'll go insane if he dies. The big bosses would not be so stupid as to order one of their guys to try and go after some of the biggest names in the book.

And yes, I realize what Kingpin is, but even putting him in with the mind of Daredevil, no one would be able to do anything to him.

Originally posted by valtiz
your logic is so childish... again i will ask you how is mass and strength will prevent you from getting stubbed? if kind pin or thor fight at least 3 people they will get stubbed and killed while king pin will beat up 1 guy the other 2 will jump him and just cut his throat or stub him in the neck or the heart and this is prison chances are he will fight 20-50 at the same time and they will take him apart

Oh yeah!

Me and Bran totally forgot about people using knives! Of course, how can a guy who'll bench half a ton and has thousands of years worth of fighting experience stand up against a home-made shank. There goes our argument.

Originally posted by valtiz
your logic is so childish... again i will ask you how is mass and strength will prevent you from getting stubbed? if kind pin or thor fight at least 3 people they will get stubbed and killed while king pin will beat up 1 guy the other 2 will jump him and just cut his throat or stub him in the neck or the heart and this is prison chances are he will fight 20-50 at the same time and they will take him apart
k, childish

Because Kingpin could actually tear someone in half... easily. You think 2-3 humans are going to take on Classic Spider-Man? Because that essentially what they have with Kingpin.

When the **** does anyone in prison fight 20-50 people at a time? BTW, Thor has also fought with armies of people as a human...

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Oh yeah!

Me and Bran totally forgot about people using knives! Of course, how can a guy who'll bench half a ton and has thousands of years worth of fighting experience stand up against a home-made shank. There goes our argument.

Thor has thousands of years of experience fighting as a god

he has no experience fighting as a human.

the two experiences are vastly different...if he fights the way he does when he was a god, he will die quickly in prison

Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor has thousands of years of experience fighting as a god

he has no experience fighting as a human.

the two experiences are vastly different...if he fights the way he does when he was a god, he will die quickly in prison

Right, because if he fights as if he was a God avoiding spears/arrows/swords, and getting killed by more powerful creatures, he would die... As well as untold experience in h2h combat...

Large fights are always broken up, happens three times in the two comics where Wolverine is in prison. In Daredevil v2 Kingpin doesn't even have to try to rip a man's arm clean off. He gets shot six times in the chest, falls into the river and makes his way through the god damn sewer.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor has thousands of years of experience fighting as a god

he has no experience fighting as a human.

the two experiences are vastly different...if he fights the way he does when he was a god, he will die quickly in prison


See, this is where you turn to lying. How the hell do you think Thor got by during the World Engine arc? Guy was weaker than Cap for crying out loud.

Thor has an impressive amount of skill. And from what I understand of their dampening powers, Thor is still a 6 foot 7 monster, with at least near or peak human strength. He'd be running the place.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor has an impressive amount of skill. And from what I understand of their dampening powers, Thor is still a 6 foot 7 monster, with at least near or peak human strength. He'd be running the place.
a knife is a knife. it doesn't matter how tall and beautiful thor is.

Originally posted by Starscream M
a knife is a knife. it doesn't matter how tall and beautiful thor is.

Matters how strong and skilled he is.

Which is most likely what rage's post was referring to.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Matters how strong and skilled he is.

Which is most likely what rage's post was referring to.

yes, thor is going to do well in straight up fights, against even 3 or more men

but what you guys are missing is prison fighting is gonna be dirty

someone is gonna poison thor's food

or try to get him while he's sleeping, or in some other vulnerable state...where his strength and size won't be useful

to survive in prison, thor MUST be able to ally himself with some gang...if his pride prevents him from doing that, he will not survive

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, thor is going to do well in straight up fights, against even 3 or more men

but what you guys are missing is prison fighting is gonna be dirty

someone is gonna poison thor's food

or try to get him while he's sleeping, or in some other vulnerable state...where his strength and size won't be useful

to survive in prison, thor MUST be able to ally himself with some gang...if his pride prevents him from doing that, he will not survive


The Cage management runs a pretty tight ship. Nobody's poisoning any food. Just like nobody but his cell-mate will get him in his sleep, which is a possibility. Only problem is that person is staring down another death-sentence added onto their sentence. Nobody would willingly spend another 20+ years in there. There's also the possibility of Thor sharing a cell with one of the other heroes. Hank and Wolverine were bunked together.

I also shouldn't have added Thunderball, he has already spent a lot of time there.

There is another side imo then just join with a gang to survive, hammer you name down so hard that none in the rotten hole will go near you. Can Thor do that, Certainly. Will Thor do that, No idea.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The Cage management runs a pretty tight ship. Nobody's poisoning any food. Just like nobody but his cell-mate will get him in his sleep, which is a possibility. Only problem is that person is staring down another death-sentence added onto their sentence. Nobody would willingly spend another 20+ years in there. There's also the possibility of Thor sharing a cell with one of the other heroes. Hank and Wolverine were bunked together.

I also shouldn't have added Thunderball, he has already spent a lot of time there.

I'm not sure I understand

if the cage is so tightly run, then whats the big challenge of surviving the cage?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm not sure I understand

if the cage is so tightly run, then whats the big challenge of surviving the cage?

Just because you can't get poison slipped in your food ore have a knife placed in your heart while your at sleep it doesn't mean that you can't get knocked down when walking, be dragged into a alley and be halfway beaten to death.

i just have a few points to make about thor. first some people are acting like hes a moron. hes very smart hes even a surgeon in his human guise. also why wouldnt he join with some like minded people. he fights with his asgardian brothers all the time and has been part of the avengers for decades. also having thousands years battle experience doesnt just help in h2h u dont think he learned any street smarts over the years. simply put its foolish to assume hes just a big dumb loner whose going to get blindy shanked in the food line or raped in the shower and really dumb to state it as a fact.

Originally posted by Starscream M
a knife is a knife. it doesn't matter how tall and beautiful thor is.

Heh, anyone who attacks Thor with a knife would be a dead man. Attacking Thor with a knife is almost as stupid as attacking him with a hamer.

Thor would disarm his opponent and toss it between his attackers eyes. His accuracy is freaking ridiculous.

Thor has some of the best accuracy in comics period. He'd make Green Arrow embarrassed. I've seen him do shit like aim and toss a man at an asteroid, toss shit like a giant pillar hundreds of feet long from the ocean to a specific hole in the heart of New York. I mean he must have tossed it countless of miles and he was at ground level as I recall. No height to aim. Of course he had powers when he did these feats and he has impressive superhuman senses. Hell, I recall them once being compared to Heimdall.

There was the time he accurretly take out two snipers on a roof top that dropped Rogers while he was human.

Black Panther, Blade, Captain America, Thor, and Kingpin are all skilled so they should be cool.

Thor's pride probably would be the biggest thing to get in his way, like someone said. Although Donald Blake may convince him to deal with the low lives for the sake of survival.

Re: Prison time

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Thor - Die because of his honor
Superman - Die because of in what he believes in
Luke Cage - He's a streetsmart dude and probably survive
Kingpin - He pw the cage
Captain America - See Superman. He will last longer, because of skills, but still get omg owned
The Thing - See Luke Cage
Black Adam - If Black Adam play it low profile, he'll do it, but if he want to be recognised as the biggest badass ever, he'll die.
Black Racer - Don't know. Btw, he looks a lot retard, on his skies.
Moses Magnum - Don't know
Blade - He's a loner. Might die, might survive.
Bishop - See Luke Cage
Black Panther - The dude's incredibly skilled, and he's a genius. He's probably the second best person to do it, after Kingpin
Thunderball - Don't know
Mr Terrific - Hum... I'll say yeah, he can do it
Black Lightning - Don't know
Jakeem Thunder - Don't know
John Stewart - Don't know

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