Prison time

Originally posted by valtiz
again you didnt answer me how is he going to avoid being stubbed by 3 guys when he is not expecting, and dont give me that bullcrap that he is always ready he will go nuts if he will think and expect 24 hours a day thathe is about to fight, he needs to eat he needs to shower and this is where he is going to get stubbed he cant do crap if he is taking a shower and suddenly 3 people attack him at the same time from behind

Seeing as how his in a prison full of people who would want to murder him based on the simple fact his a hero and put away a lot of the bastards there, then yes Thor, will watch his back every single time. Go nuts? Heh, that ain't happening. Thor's mental stability and will power is ridiculous. When Asgard fought the Frost Giant army for a year straight, even guys like Balder were starting to break down mentally but Thor was fine.

With Thor's experience, reflexes etc. and the fact that he knows he'd be in constant danger, means they aren't doing crap. If he can watch his back surrounded by hundreds of enemies, he can watch his back against 3 random prison dudes.

Originally posted by valtiz
I don't see how 3 random dudes would provide more challenges than an army worth of skilled opponents, but hey that's just me, using logic and common sense, what do I know, amirite?

This is just....facepalm

Anyways, I have to go. It's later and I'm tired of this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Seeing as how his in a prison full of people who would want to murder him based on the simple fact his a hero and put away a lot of the bastards there, then yes Thor, will watch his back every single time. Go nuts? Heh, that ain't happening. Thor's mental stability and will power is ridiculous. When Asgard fought the Frost Giant army for a year straight, even guys like Balder were starting to break down mentally but Thor was fine.

With Thor's experience, reflexes etc. and the fact that he knows he'd be in constant danger, means they aren't doing crap. If he can watch his back surrounded by hundreds of enemies, he can watch his back against 3 random prison dudes.

This is just....facepalm

again you fail tounderstand a simple thing here, thor fought all thosefights while he was ready for a fight he wass in action and ready, here he wont be ready hewill be sleeping or eating or taking a shower hell they can stubb him while he shits in the toilet dont tell me while he is shiting he can just beat them up and continue to shit you just dont get the main point

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup. Actually according to his wiki his Class 30 but that's you know a wiki, but still far above the human range.

Yea, Balder drained his godly strength and power through Odin to help fight Set and his forces.

Thor then while powerless, knocked him senseless. Here's the fight:

What did Grog learn from this? Mortal or Immortal, do not piss off Thor.

Like I said, Thor at the very LEAST has peak human or near peak human strength when mortal. And that's if he loses his Asgardian physical body, which he did in terms of mass as I recall during the Captain America incident.

all the feats thor did here are super human feats which show us that his powerts werent taken away tothe full, if thor lose his powers then he is a human and those feats are above human they got nothing to do with skills its a simple super human strength so either its a total PIS or thor never lost all of his powers but was depowered instead

Thor.........gets owned, I see him as being a target
Superman.....dies quickly
Luke Cage....good
Kingpin....owns the joint
Captain America.....getts targeted quickly
The Thing....he should be aight, he has street smarts
Black Adam.....black adam will do marginally i believe
Blade
Bishop
Black Panther........................all the skilled MAs do pretty well
Mr Terrific
Black Lightning

Originally posted by valtiz
gambit is able to beat gangs and large group of people with fighting so he is a peak human? unless you provide some facts instead of speculations your point is invalid

Gambit is enhanced human btw

Originally posted by valtiz
again you fail tounderstand a simple thing here, thor fought all thosefights while he was ready for a fight he wass in action and ready, here he wont be ready hewill be sleeping or eating or taking a shower hell they can stubb him while he shits in the toilet dont tell me while he is shiting he can just beat them up and continue to shit you just dont get the main point

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Because he's in a prison though, he would be ready for stuff like that. If for some reason he can't tell he's in a building full of cowardly, angry people, he has Donald Blake to tell him about the time he watched an episode of Oz.

again i will ask and dont avoid the question... how the hell can thor be reado for a stub when he sleep? or when he is taking a shower? or when he is walking in a line? or when he is shiting in the toilet?will he fight with a chunk of shit hanging out of his ass? they can surprise him and he wont be able to do crap because he doesnt have spider-sense or telepathy to warn him he will get killed

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you'd actually read their first fight it shows that when Thor wants to? Guess what he moves so fast the Hulk cannot even see where he went and it's been stated that Thor is undoubtedly faster. So yes Thor does take hits because he can, not because he can't dodge them.

Same with someone like Juggernaut. His been tagged many times, but when pissed off, he dodged every single one of his blows and was about to lay him out.

He does it because he can. Every time when he needs to, he pours on the speed and you can see a clear difference.

Thats just brilliant. Even the Juggernaut doesnt enjoy being hit by the Hulk and he has legitimate invulnerability. This is sad.

Originally posted by valtiz
again i will ask and dont avoid the question... how the hell can thor be reado for a stub when he sleep? or when he is taking a shower? or when he is walking in a line? or when he is shiting in the toilet?will he fight with a chunk of shit hanging out of his ass? they can surprise him and he wont be able to do crap because he doesnt have spider-sense or telepathy to warn him he will get killed

its called reflex action or don't you know what that is? why the hell do you think martial artists perform the same freakin move over and over again even if they already know the shit? its to develop their reflex actions, DUH! so that when the need arises they don't have to think shit of what they need to do and they automatically do the move, specifically, blocking.

and thor has thousands of years of practice to harness his reflexes.

so..
cells are locked, and the only ones who'd get the chance to stab thor would be his cell mate, who will get his ass kicked by thor

in a shower - reflex action duh!

shitting - reflex action, if your about to get stabbed you wouldn't care if you have a piece of shit hanging out your ass, don't assume that thor is like you, who obviously from your stupid examples will rather get stabbed while shitting rather than try to do something to avoid getting killed.

surprise attack? again, reflex action, duh!

Originally posted by valtiz
if you really believe that king pin wont get stubbed while fighting 3 guys who will attack at the same time you are either a king pin fanboy (are those even exist) or your just arguing for an argument because king pin doesnt have the states and abilities to avoid 3 attacks at the same time and his big disadvantage is his fat ass or how you would like to call it his mass

Was fighting 50 + guys when he was in prison ( with help from daredevil)

Beat the shit out of the enforcers cant handle 3 guys ?.

Cap Thor Superman and the other good heroes would form a "'gang"

Kingpin runs the prison and manipulates/intimidates most of the bad guys into working for him

Kingpin may or may not help Cap and his ''gang'' depending on how it benefits him.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Thats just brilliant. Even the Juggernaut doesnt enjoy being hit by the Hulk and he has legitimate invulnerability. This is sad.

Stop spewing shit out of your ass and actually read the comics before stating crap.

Thor also chooses to keep the Hulk alive. He can kill him easily if he felt like it. Heck, he doesn't actually want to hurt Hulk. He has worried about his safety when his hit him too hard and sent him flying on different occasions.

Originally posted by valtiz
all the feats thor did here are super human feats which show us that his powerts werent taken away tothe full, if thor lose his powers then he is a human and those feats are above human they got nothing to do with skills its a simple super human strength so either its a total PIS or thor never lost all of his powers but was depowered instead

Captain America is classified as human but he does countless superhuman feats all the time. Batman has numerous superhuman feats as well. The line between peak human and superhuman are extremely vague in comics. Heck you have Captain America beating Spider-Man in hand to hand.

Thor did lose all his powers and did become mortal, but he still had superhuman feats. Thor is at least peak human when transformed human as I said.

Originally posted by valtiz
again you fail tounderstand a simple thing here, thor fought all thosefights while he was ready for a fight he wass in action and ready, here he wont be ready hewill be sleeping or eating or taking a shower hell they can stubb him while he shits in the toilet dont tell me while he is shiting he can just beat them up and continue to shit you just dont get the main point

Thor wasn't expecting a fight when he was jumped by those knights.

How the hell is he going to get stabbed in his sleep when they are enclosed cells as I understand it? The only danger is if his prison mate does it, and no one would be stupid enough to take Thor alone sleeping or not. And if Thor is bunked with someone that stupid say Absorbing Man, he will have his guard up constantly. Stop treating Thor as if some oblivious retard.

Your main point is that Thor will be got off guard but if Thor knows his in a prison full of people who hate heroes and want to kill him, he'll never be off guard.

Despite some people's claims Thor and Supes can handle themselves rather well in a prison, they would survive most of regular threats because they are skilled fighters, strongwilled and with good body mass.

Captain America would school just about any one and has been to war.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
its called reflex action or don't you know what that is? why the hell do you think martial artists perform the same freakin move over and over again even if they already know the shit? its to develop their reflex actions, DUH! so that when the need arises they don't have to think shit of what they need to do and they automatically do the move, specifically, blocking.

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Originally posted by valtiz
again i will ask and dont avoid the question... how the hell can thor be reado for a stub when he sleep? or when he is taking a shower? or when he is walking in a line? or when he is shiting in the toilet?will he fight with a chunk of shit hanging out of his ass? they can surprise him and he wont be able to do crap because he doesnt have spider-sense or telepathy to warn him he will get killed

damnit, I forgot to add Alvis to the thread.

He goes to prison too, and is depowered to baseline human. No lawn-mower either.

Do my learned abilities stay with me?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Do my learned abilities stay with me?

Allright, you get that.