Originally posted by BattlehammerI think he's trying to determined who's more skilled, not who would win in a real fight
I think leo trying to figure out how each match up in terms of MA skills, thats why he made these threads, so I am trying to let him know that point fighting has little to do with real fighting.
cap may be more skilled, but he can't beat logan in a real fight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I think leo trying to figure out how each match up in terms of MA skills, thats why he made these threads, so I am trying to let him know that point fighting has little to do with real fighting.
I agree.
Sparring like this is good practice for finesse and technique, but doesn't readily translate to "who's better/going to stomp" in a consistant way. (I am taking your assumption about the underlying motive at face value)
I have always thought capt. A to be on a better skill lever than other top street fighters of marvel (wolverine, dd, etc.)
in a real fight, he'd have trouble with wolvi coz of the healing factor, but in a point system like this he has all the advantages.
he's taller (longer reach), he doesn't tire (almost anyway), he has more finesse, he's used to dodging (while wolvi just soaks up damage), he's faster (curtesy of super soldier serrum and wolvi's 300lbs frame), and he's still titled as one of MU's best h2h fighters.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I have always thought capt. A to be on a better skill lever than other top street fighters of marvel (wolverine, dd, etc.)in a real fight, he'd have trouble with wolvi coz of the healing factor, but in a point system like this he has all the advantages.
he's taller (longer reach), he doesn't tire (almost anyway), he has more finesse, he's used to dodging (while wolvi just soaks up damage), he's faster (curtesy of super soldier serrum and wolvi's 300lbs frame), and he's still titled as one of MU's best h2h fighters.
No he really doesent, his style of fighting is not good for point system, Logan superior knowledge of different MA would give him an advantage.
He smaller true, but he also a harder target to hit. Wolverine stamina is as good if not better. He does not have more finesse in the least, wolverine does not need to dodge, but has shown to be just as good as capt when the event calls for it as shown in there origins fight. Capt not faster in the slightest wolverine has superior speed feats. Wolverine posses super human level stats and also had his body physically enhanced by the same program. Capt not Marels bets h2h fight nor does that mean anything in point sparring.
Originally posted by BattlehammerThat's your opinion, which is about as reliable as someone bald-facedly asserting that focusing upon a single/few style(s) that specialize ina point system would give someone an advantage in point sparring. And Cap knows more styles than Logan anyway.
No he really doesent, his style of fighting is not good for point system, Logan superior knowledge of different MA would give him an advantage.He smaller true, but he also a harder target to hit. Wolverine stamina is as good if not better. He does not have more finesse in the least, wolverine does not need to dodge, but has shown to be just as good as capt when the event calls for it as shown in there origins fight. Capt not faster in the slightest wolverine has superior speed feats. Wolverine posses super human level stats and also had his body physically enhanced by the same program. Capt not Marels bets h2h fight nor does that mean anything in point sparring.
Cap has superior speed feats. It's not a question.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWBeing impressed means nothing more than appreciating a certain notion. I can be impressed by an infant's scribbling. Doesn't mean that infant is better at art than I am.
Yet Steve was impressed by Logan's dodging skills.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And Cap knows more styles than Logan anyway.
Yeah, sure. Based on Baron Zemo scan?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap has superior speed feats. It's not a question.
Now that's very interesting. Examples of these "superior" feats?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Being impressed means nothing more than appreciating a certain notion. I can be impressed by an infant's scribbling. Doesn't mean that infant is better at art than I am.
Whatever, Cap does more blocking than dodging anyway.
I remember a wolverine issue, guest starring captain America, wolverine jumped towards cap (claws out) and coulda killed cap there and then, and this wasn't from behind cap saw wolverine coming and just stood there looking scared, wolverine saved cap from some invisible ninja who was about to kill cap...just saying, cap wasn't so fast then
Originally posted by steverules_2
I remember a wolverine issue, guest starring captain America, wolverine jumped towards cap (claws out) and coulda killed cap there and then, and this wasn't from behind cap saw wolverine coming and just stood there looking scared, wolverine saved cap from some invisible ninja who was about to kill cap...just saying, cap wasn't so fast then
1. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3029/invisicaptb2.jpg
2. http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9459/invisicap2uf8.jpg
credit to jin
