Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Link hasn't killed anyone in canon. He only fights the bosses when they attack, and the ones that aren't totally evil don't die.
He doesn't kill his enemies?
Killing is killing and is 'evil', regardless of whether it's a good or evil being.
~ Meh, we're arguing in circles on this whole Kratos is evil thing. There is no right answer anyway.
Back to the topic on hand, Kratos wins.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Indeed we did; Kratos couldn't counter the Lightning Storm.It's just a hypothesis. Considering Zeus is pretty much the true wielder of the Blade, he could have. Kratos probably didn't know the Blade even existed until Zeus told him about it.
1. He technically didn't even kill him. He didn't save him either.
~ He is capable of 'evil' acts, I'm not denying that. That by itself doesn't make him evil though. He's capable of 'good' acts as well.
Fair enough.
1. Well, good point, but I think I still consider it a "bad" act. And not to mention that Kratos went to Hades, so that would mean that he is "bad".
I guess I agree.
Originally posted by iChaos
Fair enough.1. Well, good point, but I think I still consider it a "bad" act. And not to mention that Kratos went to Hades, so that would mean that he is "bad".
I guess I agree.
1. We're arguing in circles about this whole 'alignment' thing, so any further debate is pointless really.
Also, FC is right. Whenever someone in Greek Myths died, they went a certain place in Hades. From there, they were either sent to Tartarus (where the damned ones go), or the Elysium (where the virtuous ones go). Tartarus and Elysium are just two areas in Hades. That's about the basic explanation.
Wise choice 😛.
@First.
Link's not even going to land a hit without getting whatever limb he attacks with torn off.[/quote] Even if that were the case, Link would still win. He can live without an arm, KRatos can't without a head.
It's not though.
@DP, and how will Kratos stop him from using the sword? He's only got a sword, too, and Link's got more shows of swordsmanship skill.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kratos is evil.
Link is evil for killing his enemies.
Also, you are far underestimating the strength of the Blade of Olympus.
Zeus ended the war against the Titans, by simply thrusting the sword to the ground.
Seen it.
Your claim that Link is evil is extremely flawed.
1. He'd never be able to even touch the Master Sword if her were.
2. He's never killed anyone, only destroyed evil creations of Ganon/ressurected and/or destructive monsters that *will* kill peopleif he doesn't destroy them.
3. His behaviour is antithetical to what evil is.
Link goes around helping people, for no personal gain, at the risk of his own life, and cost of his own time and suffering. Link when presented with a foe that is not irredeemably evil will not kill them, simply incapacitate them, as seen in OoT/MM. Infact, Link is often *worse* off at the end of his quests, having lost a great deal of what he had before.
Kratos kills people, if they get in his way, they have something he wants, they're ugly, for the lulz, because he can, because he's evil. He's an ass. He's incredibly selfish and everything he does (minus one act) is motivated by this. Sounds like a real hero... Ohwait.
You're under-estimating the triforce of courage and master sword and what they can achieve working in tandem, in the hands of a more skilled swordsman than Kratos, who's never seen to be able to replicate Zeus' feat.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're under-estimating the triforce of courage and master sword and what they can achieve working in tandem, in the hands of a more skilled swordsman than Kratos, who's never seen to be able to replicate Zeus' feat.
If the Master Sword is even as strong as the BoO (which I doubt), then Ganon should've been sealed away or killed a long time ago.
Like I keep saying: Ganon > Zeus. Kratos has never displayed durability anywhere close to the level of Ganondorf. Even the gods can't stop him in the Zelda series, they intervene in WW, but even with the bulk of his power pinned down, he breaks free of their seal. (thoguh it does take him some time.)
But, for the sword alone to pin down the majority of something that powerful, while depowered, mind you, is a feat in itself. One blow would be enough to kill Kratos, of that I am sure.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Even if that were the case, Link would still win. He can live without an arm, KRatos can't without a head.It's not though.
@DP, and how will Kratos stop him from using the sword? He's only got a sword, too, and Link's got more shows of swordsmanship skill.
Link is anything but more skilled than Kratos first of all. Kratos, with every physical advantage over any Link to ever exist, and training from the Gods that he maintains, could effortlessly kill Link with his bare hands. Link will only live armless for as long as it takes Kratos to beat him to death with it. Link with just a sword is the kind of character that Kratos would use as a battering ram. The best he'd be is just another Perseus fight. Kratos is to Link what Link is to someone like Altair. Like I said, Link won't even get a chance to strike.
The Gods being unable to kill Ganondorf speaks more for the apparent fact that there's less to them than there is to the GoW Gods, because as shown in Atlas' flashback, just ONE God managed to fell the ENTIRE army of Titans, ending a war that shaped the entire world.
Link is anything but more skilled than Kratos first of all. Kratos,Link has more feats of swordsmanship = more skilled. 😐
Kratos, with every physical advantage over any Link to ever exist, and training from the Gods that he maintains, could effortlessly kill Link with his bare hands.There are no feats to show this, so why is it assumed?
The best he'd be is just another Perseus fight. Kratos is to Link what Link is to someone like Altair. Like I said, Link won't even get a chance to strike.Link >>>>> Perseus. 😐
No, considering the fact that Kratos isn't 'evil' as you say he is.Master Sword won't be as effective as it is against Kratos like it was against Ganon.
Actually, it'll be more effective, if anything. Kratos has more evil acts under his belt than Ganondorf does, and is more of a douchebag. KRatos has far lower durability, as well.
Him being good or evil is irrelvent, the MS has never canonically stopped a being instantly just because his evil. Hell link would have to hit Kratos first, Kratos has more reach to begin with, and strength, and power in his sword. But the thread is pretty much finished, especially when this truth has already been posted:
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Blade of Olympus wipes out entire armies and sends super giants to Tartarus.The Master Sword after the battle: