No, it proves that he is bad. "It" being a part of Hades means nonething. Esylium Fields is "a part" of Hades, but guess what? Kratos' daughter didn't go to Hades, now did she? If he wasn't "bad" then why didn't he go to Esylium Fields, then (and it even says this in Greek Myth)? It's obvious that Hades is a punishment for people who were bad. I mean, look at The Barbarian King.
No, it doesn't. All mortals go to the underworld of Hades at death. Go read a book for heaven's sake. You're confusing Christian Hell with the Greek underworld, they're not even close to being the same thing. Seeing as how Elysium fields is a part of Hades, that means anyone there is also in Hades, just like you being in Yankees stadium doesn't mean you are no longer in NYC, just a smaller part of it.
Originally posted by iChaos
No. "Good" people went to Elysium Fields and "Bad" people went to Hades. And this is pretty obvious because if "all dead mortals" went there then why didn't Kratos daughter go to Hades?See above.
Then you do not know what happened to the dead in Greek Myths.
Since you think you are correct about what Hades is and it being the place where the 'bad' guys go, what is the Captain doing there? He cannot be innocent if he was in Hades with Kratos 😐.
Yes, it does. No they don't (and I know they're not the same). Like I said, it being a part of something means nonething. It's just a place under the world (not being in Hades?). And there was a couple of mortals who went to the Field in the first place. Well, in Greek Myth, it wasn't said where it was, AFAIR. Achillies, Ajax, Patroclus, and Antiochus all went to Elysium Fields. Last I checked, only righteous people went to Elysium Fields. Yes, mortals went to Hades, but mortals went to Tartarus as well, I think. So does Kratos being dropped down in Tartarus count? And in GoW, I think it's different.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Then you do not know what happened to the dead in Greek Myths.Since you think you are correct about what Hades is and it being the place where the 'bad' guys go, what is the Captain doing there? He cannot be innocent if he was in Hades with Kratos 😐.
Hey, who knows, he could be bad (I doubt it, though). And GoW doesn't exactly follow the myths. I mean, in GoW, Hades is a place of torment (hell, I COULD be wrong).
Originally posted by iChaosI wasn't sure he was strugggling because later in a section in Gow 2 he picked up a small stone house/hut/or whatever it was and slide it on the pass near by to cross over.
Well, it was hard for him to push Pandora's Box, which two Harpies easily picked up and carried away.
Originally posted by iChaos
I really wouldn't say he was "struggling" but it was hard for him to push. Maybe he was tired, lol.[quote=Phanteros]In God of war you see a patch in Hades for the souls of the blessed(CoO) where his daughter is at.
What? [/QUOTE] Let me get a quote said earlier.
Seeing as how Elysium fields is a part of Hades, that means anyone there is also in Hades, just like you being in Yankees stadium doesn't mean you are no longer in NYC, just a smaller part of it.
Elysium is the field dedicated to the virtuous ones in Hades, where Kratos Daughter resided at.
Originally posted by iChaos
Hey, who knows, he could be bad (I doubt it, though). And GoW doesn't exactly follow the myths. I mean, in GoW, Hades is a place of torment (hell, I COULD be wrong).
You've lost your point 😬.
If the Captain is not good, fair enough, your point holds. However, it can't be an 'evil' act (Kratos letting the Captain die) since he left an evil person to die, and y'all have no problem with Link killing the evil guys. In fact, it should be a 'good' act, since he stopped the 'evil' guy from escaping and gave him what he deserved (torment).
If the Captain is good or not evil, then your point about Hades being the place where evil souls go, does not hold.
~ Seeing as Tartarus & the Elysium Fields exist and are part of the Underworld in the GoW-verse, I doubt it's different from the myths.
As for the daughter, we only know that she was in the Elysium fields. There is no evidence to suggest that she was dropped in or immediately went to the Elysium Fields just after she died.
If the Captain is not good, fair enough, your point holds. However, it can't be an 'evil' act (Kratos letting the Captain die) since he left an evil person to die, and y'all have no problem with Link killing the evil guys. In fact, it should be a 'good' act, since he stopped the 'evil' guy from escaping and gave him what he deserved (torment).Way to twist the situation.
The Captain isn't a creation of Ganondorf or any such other being, he's not beyond redemption, and Link would have certainly helped him back up. Kratos didn't leave him there for any reason other than his own amusement, either. Link never kills anyone, only incapacitates them, and he only fights for selfless reasons. BIIIG difference.
Kratos = evil.
Master sword = smites him.
Originally posted by ScreamPastesense when did the master sword become instant kill on anyone? even if the opponents are evil that does mean he can't one shot them alone with it. The sword only makes it more effective to harm them.
Way to twist the situation.The Captain isn't a creation of Ganondorf or any such other being, he's not beyond redemption, and Link would have certainly helped him back up. Kratos didn't leave him there for any reason other than his own amusement, either. Link never kills anyone, only incapacitates them, and he only fights for selfless reasons. BIIIG difference.
Kratos = evil.
Master sword = smites him.
Sadly Zelda logic doesn't apply to GoW and obvious the Captain went to hell as well I guess he wasn't innocent after all.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Way to twist the situation.The Captain isn't a creation of Ganondorf or any such other being, he's not beyond redemption, and Link would have certainly helped him back up. Kratos didn't leave him there for any reason other than his own amusement, either. Link never kills anyone, only incapacitates them, and he only fights for selfless reasons. BIIIG difference.
Kratos = evil.
Master sword = smites him.