W.W. Bracers vs. B.B. Scream

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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I'm reporting you. You are saying he's silly for being a WW fan? It's obvious you don't like the character and you demean her at every turn. Gamora isn't as strong as the Hulk either and I think she can beat him. Strength isn't the only determining factor. Flash isn't as Strong as Thor and he beats Thor handily.
Report me if you want. He keeps throwing my name around simply because he's upset about her strength level and the fact I am correct about it. He later agreed she wasn't as strong as Superman/Thor/Marvel despite arguing with me back and forth.

Reporting someone is the most childish thing a poster can do. Man up and debate. this forum was practically dead when everyone reported every little thing that offended them. Now tha the mods are relaxed it's back to normal.

If you want to report me then do so.

tideoftime Senior Member
Originally posted by quanchi112
I failed to understand nothing. You even agreed with me that her strength isn't up to par with theirs. Just let it go ya silly WW fan.

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What I had only ever indicated is that she isn't *quite* as strong, but is nearly so... Superman edges her in strength by roughly the same margin as she edges him in reflex/combat speed, which is to say a measurable amount, but nothing more than marginal (barring sun amps, godwaves, magical gauntlets, Aunt May being in trouble, etc.)

And I would love to let it go (along with a few other points I have been in disagreement with a couple other people), except that it keeps coming up, from other people, and it's a mis-characterization in terms of her. (Some people have also made a few statements about Thor, and Martian Manhunter, that I don't think are correct either, and I have said as much...)

And while I like the character of WW, she isn't my favorite... I just found the subtle inaccuracies of perception about her (and the semi-dogged way it is maintained) just kind of weird -- if she weren't nearly as strong as Superman, I'd have no problem with that. But she is. And she is much more durable and enduring than a number of people give credit for, which is also bizarre, given her steady and measurable increase in resistance over the past 20 years of comics.

Anywho...

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by tideoftime
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What I had only ever indicated is that she isn't *quite* as strong, but is nearly so... Superman edges her in strength by roughly the same margin as she edges him in reflex/combat speed, which is to say a measurable amount, but nothing more than marginal (barring sun amps, godwaves, magical gauntlets, Aunt May being in trouble, etc.)

And I would love to let it go (along with a few other points I have been in disagreement with a couple other people), except that it keeps coming up, from other people, and it's a mis-characterization in terms of her. (Some people have also made a few statements about Thor, and Martian Manhunter, that I don't think are correct either, and I have said as much...)

And while I like the character of WW, she isn't my favorite... I just found the subtle inaccuracies of perception about her (and the semi-dogged way it is maintained) just kind of weird -- if she weren't nearly as strong as Superman, I'd have no problem with that. But she is. And she is much more durable and enduring than a number of people give credit for, which is also bizarre, given her steady and measurable increase in resistance over the past 20 years of comics.

Anywho...

Nearly as strong isn't as strong. If I bench 250 lbs. and you bench 220 lb. you could say nearly but 30 pounds is 30 pounds.

I agree her reflexes in combat are quicker than his. He edges her out due to strength and durability.

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nearly as strong isn't as strong. If I bench 250 lbs. and you bench 220 lb. you could say nearly but 30 pounds is 30 pounds.

I agree her reflexes in combat are quicker than his. He edges her out due to strength and durability.

If the two are fighting and one benches 250 and one benches 220, it won't matter much if the one who benches two 22o has faster reflexes. they are going to hit harder than their size based upon reflex speed. Speed is a big deciding factor in how hard something hits.

Konton Homo Magi

Originally posted by tideoftime
Well, she has a weakness to piercing/slashing attacks in that she has a lower resistance to them than what would be expected when compared with her ability to resist blunt force trauma and moderate to high level energy attacks (depending on the nature of the energy in question). Normal/unaugmented arrows, standard bullets, and non-special swords/knives cannot harm her, per se, but can hurt in the sense of pain.

(Trust me -- she's one of several characters I have followed closely for 30 years, through thick and thin, and this is definitely the most durable/resistant she has ever been -- but she still has "weaknesses" in the sense of not being *quite* as invulnerable as Superman/Captain Marvel, and a few others... though some other people still fail to understand just how resistant/enduring she has become -- quan being one of them...)

I can't recall a single instance where she was cut or even felt the pain of being slashed at by a non-magic blade. Bullets I'll give you.

tideoftime Senior Member
Originally posted by Zeuodin
I'm reporting you. You are saying he's silly for being a WW fan? It's obvious you don't like the character and you demean her at every turn. Gamora isn't as strong as the Hulk either and I think she can beat him. Strength isn't the only determining factor. Flash isn't as Strong as Thor and he beats Thor handily.

Uhhh...

While I thank you for your support, I don't think him calling me silly is an overtly offensive remark. I am not offended by it. The only silly thing is his twisting of my comments (and the intent I laid down with them) concerning a fictional character's relative super-human strength. I have indicated that she is not quite as strong as Superman, Thor, et al, but she is nearly so. He takes that to mean that she is not in their class of physical strength, when DC comics has, over the past 2 decades made it quite clear that she is. They may be stronger than her by a considerable measure of gross tonnage, but the percentage of strength difference isn't that much. My very original statement concerning Diana and Thor is that he would definitely win at armwrestling (or mercy), though not as easily as a number of fanbois would think. As far as actual battle, that's a different story -- she could give him quite a run for his money. But nothing is definite either way.

*sigh*

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I'm reporting you. You are saying he's silly for being a WW fan? It's obvious you don't like the character and you demean her at every turn. Gamora isn't as strong as the Hulk either and I think she can beat him. Strength isn't the only determining factor. Flash isn't as Strong as Thor and he beats Thor handily.
Then report. We don't need a declaration in the thread.

BattleMage Legendary insain fist!

It pains me to see how weak dudes are on here, Always reporting someone next they will be spilling there guts to the police! DAMN

iceman24567 Senior Member

It's not weak to report trolls plus the mods rather have us use the button than flame you shouldn't discourage people from using the report button 😬

nicamarvin Restricted

Originally posted by iceman24567
It's not weak to report trolls plus the mods rather have us use the button than flame you shouldn't discourage people from using the report button 😬
DUDE I Report the Reporters and I alos Report the Mods....... 😎

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by Badabing
Then report. We don't need a declaration in the thread.
Sorry. I saw him declare someone a Silly Fan and so I made a counter declaration.

chomperx9 Restricted

are the bracers considered magic the way they work ?

BattleMage Legendary insain fist!

Originally posted by chomperx9
are the bracers considered magic the way they work ?
Is the Joker a maniac ?

chomperx9 Restricted

Originally posted by BattleMage
Is the Joker a maniac ?
just a happy one.

and guessing your answer means yes.

well then if her bracers are magic and if hawkman takes a hit at WWs bracers with his mace wont that affect WWs arms since the mace disrupts magic ?

Sasaraixx Senior Member

Originally posted by chomperx9
just a happy one.

and guessing your answer means yes.

well then if her bracers are magic and if hawkman takes a hit at WWs bracers with his mace wont that affect WWs arms since the mace disrupts magic ?

It's a question of degree. Sure the mace disrupts magic, but is it above the magic of skyfathers? I seriously, seriously doubt it.

D_Dude1210 Doink!

Can I see some top end feats of the bracers? I saw some that Zeuodin posted back in another post, are those the top ones?

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Can I see some top end feats of the bracers? I saw some that Zeuodin posted back in another post, are those the top ones?
Deflecting the power of the shattered God, who was more powerful than all the gods of all pantheons, deflecting the power of the entire Greek pantheon, and the Omegas are the best feats I can think of. They can block abstract level power.

chomperx9 Restricted

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
It's a question of degree. Sure the mace disrupts magic, but is it above the magic of skyfathers? I seriously, seriously doubt it.
above ? has there ever been any limit to a spell of what the mace can disrupt ?

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by chomperx9
above ? has there ever been any limit to a spell of what the mace can disrupt ?
The metal itself is indestructible. Nothing to do with a spell. The spell on the bracers or magic per say comes from the Aegis affect.

tideoftime Senior Member
Originally posted by chomperx9
above ? has there ever been any limit to a spell of what the mace can disrupt ?

It's not simply a question of "magic" or "spell" -- her bracers/lasso both are on a level of legendary/mythic standing (like Mjolner) that is so powerful, even the gods themselves are humbled by them. Besides it's inherent god-level mystical power, her bracers also are at least base-line comparable to adamantium/promethium, if different in nature.