Originally posted by Harbinger
Monarch was smacking Prime around in that fight; were it not for him taunting Prime, his suit doesn't get torn open.
Can you do me a fave, tell me a feat from THAT version of Prime that was fighting Monarch to make me believe that Tyrant wouldnt slap Prime around as well?
What the hell does Prime have to do with anything.
Monarch faced off against him and now we're using him as a scale? 😬
Tyrant fought Thanos, Monarch would beat him. Guess that means Monarch > Tyrant. Doesn't work.
Not only does Prime carry a huge jobber aura (lol stomping Mxy) but he was also amped by Oan energy, and Monarch was literally playing with him as you would a child. He had him boxed in most of the fight, while Prime managed to breach his armor after he let his guard down. Still not beating him though, considering Monarch was still alive afterwards.
Originally posted by Cubey
What the hell does Prime have to do with anything.Monarch faced off against him and now we're using him as a scale? 😬
Tyrant fought Thanos, Monarch would beat him. Guess that means Monarch > Tyrant. Doesn't work.
Not only does Prime carry a huge jobber aura (lol stomping Mxy) but he was also amped by Oan energy, and Monarch was literally playing with him as you would a child. He had him boxed in most of the fight, while Prime managed to breach his armor after he let his guard down. Still not beating him though, considering Monarch was still alive afterwards.
Prime is the gauge, he's the scale, and he was weighed and measured. He helps to measure Monarch as well, and by my rough estimate Monarch would be eaten by Tyrant as the battle continued. Monarch is very energetic, Tyrant devours bio energy, and this makes him stronger. My guess is that at the end Monarch would look like the guy that tried to fight Jason Vorhees, but found out that it wasn't enough. He'd be left quivering as Tyrant sealed his fate... with a smile.
You see Tyrant is basically a super powered cosmic vampire, which is how he was written.
Thanos was being amped, doesn't count.
Originally posted by Stoic
Prime is the gauge, he's the scale, and he was weighed and measured. He helps to measure Monarch as well, and by my rough estimate Monarch would be eaten by Tyrant as the battle continued. Monarch is very energetic, Tyrant devours bio energy, and this makes him stronger. My guess is that at the end Monarch would look like the guy that tried to fight Jason Vorhees, but found out that it wasn't enough. He'd be left quivering as Tyrant sealed his fate... with a smile.You see Tyrant is basically a super powered cosmic vampire, which is how he was written.
Thanos was being amped, doesn't count.
Prime is never the gauge. It's like scaling A-Bomb vs his showing against Rulk. A-Bomb held his own, Surfer got stomped, so A-Bomb > Surfer? Monarch held his own, Mxy got stomped, so I'll just say Monarch > Mxy, fair?
Prime was toyed with the whole time, and never once actually did anything of importance of significance during the fight. Monarch let off a nuke in jest, and Prime only breached his armor because Monarch wanted to be all arrogant and whatnot.
And Prime was amped too, but suddenly it counts? Wtf.
Originally posted by Cubey
Prime is never the gauge. It's like scaling A-Bomb vs his showing against Rulk. A-Bomb held his own, Surfer got stomped, so A-Bomb > Surfer? Monarch held his own, Mxy got stomped, so I'll just say Monarch > Mxy, fair?Prime was toyed with the whole time, and never once actually did anything of importance of significance during the fight. Monarch let off a nuke in jest, and Prime only breached his armor because Monarch wanted to be all arrogant and whatnot.
And Prime was amped too, but suddenly it counts? Wtf.
You know that it's not as simple as that. The Surfer isn't a brawler, nor was he the current Surfer, he was plucked out of time from when he first became a Herald. He was green, while Rulk was seasoned.
Tyrant would have no problem handling Monarch's energy blasts, which would make him more powerful due to his energy leaching powers. There is also no evidence to suggest that Tyrant wouldn't be able to tear that suit off of him. Tyrant has no need of a suit, he is Tyrant, and Tyrant would eat Monarch.
Originally posted by Stoic
You know that it's not as simple as that. The Surfer isn't a brawler, nor was he the current Surfer, he was plucked out of time from when he first became a Herald. He was green, while Rulk was seasoned.Tyrant would have no problem handling Monarch's energy blasts, which would make him more powerful due to his energy leaching powers. There is also no evidence to suggest that Tyrant wouldn't be able to tear that suit off of him. Tyrant has no need of a suit, he is Tyrant, and Tyrant would eat Monarch.
He also beat Terrax. And Thor.
Tyrant gets stronger from the energy of biospheres.
Also, Monarch could just tear the suit himself as some crude last-ditch lol.
Originally posted by Cubey
He also beat Terrax. And Thor.Tyrant gets stronger from the energy of biospheres.
Also, Monarch could just tear the suit himself as some crude last-ditch lol.
Tyrant devours whatever energy is available, whether it be from a planet, or a sentient, Monarch's last mistake would be to blast this guy, and you and I know, that Monarch would blast him. Galactus himself was powering him up with his energy blasts.
Terrax was whooped because he trusted Rulk, besides Rulk is a badass.
Originally posted by Stoic
Tyrant devours whatever energy is available, whether it be from a planet, or a sentient, Monarch's last mistake would be to blast this guy, and you and I know, that Monarch would blast him. Galactus himself was powering him up with his energy blasts.Terrax was whooped because he trusted Rulk, besides Rulk is a badass.
He can also manipulate Tyrant's energy blasts. He doesn't have to necesarrily blast him.
What about Thor? That one has no excuse.
Originally posted by Cubey
He can also manipulate Tyrant's energy blasts. He doesn't have to necesarrily blast him.What about Thor? That one has no excuse.
Since I don't know why you brought Rulk into this I'll leave it at that.
This thing about Monarch manipulating Tyrant's energy is uncertain at best, but what is certain is that Tyrant would have the advantage of consuming Monarch's, allowing him to become even more powerful.
When Galactus made Tyrant he made a near equal to himself in terms of power, which was also stated on panel.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
What tier is monarch?And DP tyrant?FP tyrant stomps though.
Both are sub skyfather at best but again, some people look at versatility when ranking characters and Monarch did nothing versatile wise except shoot powerful blast and physically destroy people with his fist. With that said, if we are using Illa tier placement, he would be Elite Herald (versatility) but in my eyes he is a skyfather.
Originally posted by Galan007
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You mean IC Prime was beaten after he'd been exiled for "years" in the speed force under a red sun, after he battled most of DC's heroes simultaneously, and after the 2 Supermen ran him directly through yet another red sun?
Yeah, I really wouldnt call that an reason to downplay the character. It was basically prime without his powers fighting two other Supermen without their powers and I could see Prime losing that fight.