Originally posted by dadudemon
But won't succeed 10 out of 10 timesNo, it's still 10 out of 10 for Laxus.
Yeeea, not seeing where you're getting that. Her all magic in one strike attack is strong enough to take him down, and she is good enough to hit him (Natsu and Gajeel were able to hit him repeatedly even though neither is as fast or skilled as her).
Their differences in power aren't that big to begin with, and focusing power all in one specific attribute can overcome a gap.
Originally posted by Q99
Yeeea, not seeing where you're getting that. Her all magic in one strike attack is strong enough to take him down, and she is good enough to hit him (Natsu and Gajeel were able to hit him repeatedly even though neither is as fast or skilled as her).Their differences in power aren't that big to begin with, and focusing power all in one specific attribute can overcome a gap.
Natsu and Gajeel, together, of course.
I see it a bit more one sided than before, after reading a few of the past chapters. It is still not ultra easy, but it seems like an easy win for Laxus.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Natsu and Gajeel, together, of course.
Natsu was able to hit him individually too, he just didn't have the omph.
Erza's faster, more skilled, and her all-offense attacks are focusing more magic than Natsu has all in one place.
Laxus has more magic, but not that much more, not enough to tank that kind of attack.
Originally posted by Q99
Natsu was able to hit him individually too, he just didn't have the omph.Erza's faster, more skilled, and her all-offense attacks are focusing more magic than Natsu has all in one place.
Laxus has more magic, but not that much more, not enough to tank that kind of attack.
I think Natsu, at the time, could win 2 out of 10 times against Erza, however.
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Originally posted by dadudemon
I think Natsu, at the time, could win 2 out of 10 times against Erza, however.
Natsu's actually got a harder job of it than Erza vs Laxus when you break it down- Erza's got more magic and stats, and she has Fire Empress to cut his offense down.
Possibly similar power gap, though.
Originally posted by Q99
Natsu's actually got a harder job of it than Erza vs Laxus when you break it down- Erza's got more magic and stats, and she has Fire Empress to cut his offense down.Possibly similar power gap, though.
Okay. I see what you mean. If that's as far as I can get you to come in this discussion, I should not ask for more.
You already have my "post time skip" concession on Erza, so we met in the middle, again. 😄
Edit- Hey, while we are in the comfy middle-ground again, you wanna...you know...........
Eat some icecream! What did you think I meant? YOU SICKO! 😠
Okay, Erza can beat Laxus. lolololol!!!
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/11847077/23
She is as strong or stronger than the 10 saints because one of the 10 saints is said to possibly be unable to defeat the S-Class monster.
Also....
Millianna is so cute on the bottom right-hand panel:
http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/11847077/15
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Originally posted by BloodRain
Its Erza. Who doesn't? :I
That's what makes it a trick question!
Kinda hoping they animate Erza's goddly danse macabre. Speaking of, how many points will the other teams get for this round?
Well, no-one else was able to defeat so much as a single monster, so zero, I would assume.
Originally posted by BloodRain
It'd take some weird torny rules if no one gets a chance to compete.
But it only happened because one contestant took an option that should, by all rights, be a sure elimination. Remember that if she fell at any point, even if it was after taking out 80-90 monsters, Erza'd get zero points. And after that, they were out of monsters.
Tactically choosing the right amount of monsters was one of the key skills that was supposed to decide the challenge. It did that.
With this Erza will probably become one of the Ten Saints. She's gotta be above Jura, with an opening now that Jose and Jella are out... Isnt Laxus even stronger than her?
But Jose and Jellal fell out 7 years ago, their slots are probably long full by now.
In FT, Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts all qualify on power. Heck, maybe Mirajane too.
I figure part of the reason for lack of FT wizard saints outside Makarov, aside from the time skip, is their lack of popularity in the council. Though, still, with a public display like that...
(I will say don't underestimate Jura- he was doing really well against Jellal, and may have improved during the timeskip, and even back then he was really powerful, beating Brain pretty easily)
Even for a risk/reward scenario I still find it odd that a competition round and be done so that no one can compete.
But Jose and Jellal fell out 7 years ago, their slots are probably long full by now.In FT, Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts all qualify on power. Heck, maybe Mirajane too.
I figure part of the reason for lack of FT wizard saints outside Makarov, aside from the time skip, is their lack of popularity in the council. Though, still, with a public display like that...
(I will say don't underestimate Jura- he was doing really well against Jellal, and may have improved during the timeskip, and even back then he was really powerful, beating Brain pretty easily)
..Right, the timeskip. A fair point, or some mage political reason seeing as we know there are far more powerful people around than the three J's.
No doubt he's probably improved in that time, however he's stated that he's the weakest of the Saints. So if one of the Saints cant defeat an S class beast, its gonna be him.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Even for a risk/reward scenario I still find it odd that a competition round and be done so that no one can compete.
One did compete.
It was enough.
The thing is, it was made so it was technically possible (I'll mention the Hidden event- a shut out was technically possible there too, if someone tags everyone else evenly and prevents anyone else from scoring tags even on each other), but no-one thought it was remotely plausible.
No doubt he's probably improved in that time, however he's stated that he's the weakest of the Saints. So if one of the Saints cant defeat an S class beast, its gonna be him.
Well, weakest back then.
Discovered an interesting tidbit on the FT wiki- according to some extra info in vol 32, originally it was going to be Jura vs Laxus instead of Jura vs Mystogun, and the result was going to be a draw.
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he thing is, it was made so it was technically possible (I'll mention the Hidden event- a shut out was technically possible there too, if someone tags everyone else evenly and prevents anyone else from scoring tags even on each other), but no-one thought it was remotely plausible.
Who else could have slain all 100?
Well, weakest back then.Discovered an interesting tidbit on the FT wiki- according to some extra info in vol 32, originally it was going to be Jura vs Laxus instead of Jura vs Mystogun, and the result was going to be a draw.
Ahh, if only he did. So even with this win under her belt, its still Erza =< Jura (Assuming shes still below Laxus)?
Originally posted by BloodRain
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Actually I dont think the whole S-class beast > a Saint is correct. That pumpkin is most likely saying it only because Jura is partaking in the round.
It said victory wasn't guaranteed for the saint, not that it was for the beast. So it wasn't saying that it was necessarily stronger, just strong enough that even someone like Jura would have to fight for it and lose some of the time.
It was basically set up so that even a wizard saint would have to be cautious. Because even if a particular wizard saint is convinced they could win... well, who'd want to fight one while there's also several A-class beasts on the field as well?
Also, strategically it would be wise to not go for your max at first, to gain some easy points and feel out their strength.
Pretty much, only a Fairy S-class would do that.