Originally posted by Deadline
Yes you do think you are always right. The fact that everytime Wolverine gets Koed or stunned is either PIS or has a depleted HF prove you think you are always right. It's impossible for that to be true all the timeAgain stop lying. I gave Wolverine the majority in the Blade vs Wolverine debate and I specifically stated in the Elektra vs Blade thread that I respected both sides of the debate. That directly contradicts what you're saying.
I don't have time to post exactly what I'm thinking but lets take a closer look at some more recent arguments. You are arguing that Sabretooth is stronger than Dracula, do I really have a problem with it, no I don't. The reason why I was giving you a hard time was because I was trying to show you you're arguments were not conclusive. You make arguments that are not conclusive and act as if they are fact, then when somebody else makes a similar argument you go to town on it.
Hell I don't think Blade standing in fire is proof of a HF either. I don't give the Blade side grief because they don't think they're perfect. Obvoulsy you think your right about everything but don't make shit up about me.
Common Deadline. You clearly have a problem with me and Srank that directly effects how you behave in every thread we're in.
You troll after us, stalk us in thread after thread, and then engage in a this years long personal vendetta almost every time Srank or I argue and certainly every time we argue with the Blade peanut gallery.
Thing is even IF you somehow manage to look past that hostility enough to give the proper odds in any given thread it doesn't stop you from down right assaulting our arguments no matter WHAT they may be throughout the duration of the thread ANYWAYS... And I DO mean assaulting... As you don't really ever argue with us using actual debate but rather tend to play Devil's advocate in the face of evidence, probability, common sense etc.. all the while throwing out as much circumstantial evidence and red herring nonsense as possible.
Now that might sound like a digression but it goes hand in hand with your original point.. do me and Srank think we're always right?
Well..... Yeah (We actually don't think we're ALWAYS right but on the by and large when we engage in threads it's what we usually presume yes).
...At least when it concerns us talking about comic book representations.
The arguments that he or I present are hardly ever based on conjecture alone. We tend to build our arguments up from a basis of evidence that we then tend to provide throughout each thread. I don't want to start finger pointing about who brings lots of baseless speculations to these threads or references context-raped examples without showing them in the thread to support their arguments..... but honestly when it comes to bringing "it" on, Srank and I do our fair share of work in almost every thread we participate in.
Thing is Zone (and I know I've told you this before), THAT'S THE POINT OF ARGUMENT! Why in the blue hell would we argue something if we thought we were wrong?
If we thought we were wrong about something we'd be asking a lot more questions in threads instead of making statements.
It's only logical that one assumes they're right when they take sides in an argument.
Now, that doesn't mean that we ARE right when the argument begins to go underway, but IN CASE we're wrong about our positions we give PLENTY of oppurtunities to opposing sides to provide proof of their sentiments.
When it comes to putting your proof where your mouth is.... We certainly do... I mean, we HAVE to given the fact that we have people like you who decide that we're always wrong just because it's us.
For instance:
Look at you and I RIGHT NOW. By denying/refusing my position that Wolverine shouldn't go down to one claw swipe (Just recently looked through the book and it wasn't even that... it was a closed fist punch... my God Claremont) you're thereby taking up the position that such a showing is justified...
I told you I can provide plenty of counter evidence... so much evidence that it would burry the example by comparison.. instead of either meeting that challenge or conceding to the point you decided to throw out a classic red herring on your views concerning the ethics of debate apparently.
That's just it. We do our job to back our claims, we talk about what we know about, we use facts instead of conjecture, and we don't base our opinions strictly on being the opposite opinion of someone else...
When you follow those types of guidlines when making an argument it's hard to find yourself "wrong" really.
It's like me getting butt-hurt at you for thinking the sky's blue (Actually you may not think that, but I'll give you credit I suppose) and throwing a tantrum because you don't think you're wrong about that notion.... In objective retrospect... why would you?
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Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
wooow dude completely unnecessary
and im posting trash
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
better edit that post was about to report you
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
WTF are you talking about on panel evidence i said its ...CIS/PIS infested trash and you need on panel evidence 😆
seriouslyone more insult and im reporting you
seriously getting old and unnecessary
Three responses to the same timy post?
That musta REALLY got to you huh? 😆
Originally posted by jinzinno i posted one responding to your insult... then u edited your response...
Three responses to the same timy post?That musta REALLY got to you huh? 😆
and no your insults dont hurt they're unnecessary because i'd shut ur azz down with insults but do I... no i dnt its not necessary in a comic book versus forum...
Here's what I find insulting. I bring evidence to the table, you ask what it's evidence of after laying harsh, unfair, and inaccurate criticisms on it and when I go over what it proves at great length in detail, you ignore all of that so that you don't have to address the points I've made.
It's like a child cupping his ears, closing his eyes, and yelling out so that he doesn't have to register what he doesn't like.
That's insulting to my intelligence, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone here and it results in a waste of time providing you with answers you want but will never accept... just because.
So yeah, when you tell me my evidence is "trash" in a thread where you thought bringing up Creed being beheaded by the Muramasa was relivent to this thread I'm inclined to inform you on what trash really is..
Originally posted by jinzin
For instance:
Look at you and I RIGHT NOW. By denying/refusing my position that Wolverine shouldn't go down to one claw swipe (Just recently looked through the book and it wasn't even that... it was a closed fist punch... my God Claremont) you're thereby taking up the position that such a showing is justified...
Ok I'm gonna try one last time. He's Dracula lord of the Vamps hes a badass. He's held his own against Silver Surfer and owned Black Knight in two panels. Some powerful opponents or highly skilled opponents can do it.
I gave up on trying to explain to you how sabertooth was being handled by Hans and mini hans... and it is CIS/PIS infested whether you like it or not... if a character results in playing oppossum to get a hit he was obviously losing
im not the 1st person to mention the blatant CIS/PIS that was in there
dont respond... unless you're agreeing it was CIS/PIS... and forgetting him fighting them as a valid argument
so shall we go backto unravelling the Spitfire wins argument?
Raise your hand if you think Spitfire wins 7-8/10, good now please account for how Sabretooth wins his 2-3/10. Part of being a good debater is to see things from both sides, if Spitfires Speed and strength coupled is such a great threat..how do you account for the wins YOU give Sabretooth?
Iduntgetit 😕
The obvious dodge is to comeback with "in that case i go back onmy previous statement and say spitfire stomps 10/10"
in which case your credibility is gone and we get to lol at your flapping as you realize your reluctance to side with anyone in a wolverine/weapon x camp, no matter how reasonable their argument..So back to the top of my post, any adults in the spitfire camp care to share?
Originally posted by Deadline
Ok I'm gonna try one last time. He's Dracula lord of the Vamps hes a badass. He's held his own against Silver Surfer and owned Black Knight in two panels. Some powerful opponents or highly skilled opponents can do it.
NO......
Having more skill doesn't somehow negate Wolverine's healing factor or Adamantium skeleton.
SEE?! RIGHT HERE: instead of coming back with examples or proof or ANYTHING even resembling a half thought out logical argument what do you bring me?
Some grade school crapola about how "He's Dracula lord of the Vamps hes a badass". That answers so pathetic it doesn't even warrant a response.
Yeah but you want to cry about me and Srank... sweet. 🙄
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
I gave up on trying to explain to you how sabertooth was being handled by Hans and mini hans...
Originally posted by 0mega SpawnHans did that first to some extent.... So I guess Hans was losing eh?
and it is CIS/PIS infested whether you like it or not... if a character results in playing oppossum to get a hit he was obviously losing
Context....
Originally posted by 0mega SpawnThe only other person who has as actually looked at the scans (Pretty clear you haven't) and brought a half thought out argument about his thoughts on the matter.
im not the 1st person to mention the blatant CIS/PIS that was in there
CIS/PIS doesn't effect what proof came out of that fight that had nothing to do with either. Which I've address, which hasn't been properly debunked.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn😆
dont respond... unless you're agreeing it was CIS/PIS... and forgetting him fighting them as a valid argument
Lol @ the audacity. So pretencious.
Originally posted by Juk3n
so shall we go backto unravelling the Spitfire wins argument?
Raise your hand if you think Spitfire wins 7-8/10, good now please account for how Sabretooth wins his 2-3/10. Part of being a good debater is to see things from both sides, if Spitfires Speed and strength coupled is such a great threat..how do you account for the wins YOU give Sabretooth?Iduntgetit 😕
The obvious dodge is to comeback with "in that case i go back onmy previous statement and say spitfire stomps 10/10"
in which case your credibility is gone and we get to lol at your flapping as you realize your reluctance to side with anyone in a wolverine/weapon x camp, no matter how reasonable their argument..So back to the top of my post, any adults in the spitfire camp care to share?
^ THIS. 😐
Originally posted by Juk3nExcept the 10/10 or 7/10 isn't 10 different fights.Its what percentage you think the person could win.
so shall we go backto unravelling the Spitfire wins argument?
Raise your hand if you think Spitfire wins 7-8/10, good now please account for how Sabretooth wins his 2-3/10. Part of being a good debater is to see things from both sides, if Spitfires Speed and strength coupled is such a great threat..how do you account for the wins YOU give Sabretooth?Iduntgetit 😕
The obvious dodge is to comeback with "in that case i go back onmy previous statement and say spitfire stomps 10/10"
in which case your credibility is gone and we get to lol at your flapping as you realize your reluctance to side with anyone in a wolverine/weapon x camp, no matter how reasonable their argument..So back to the top of my post, any adults in the spitfire camp care to share?
Meaning if you think spitfire has a 70% chance of winning then they win 7/10.
And I'm not saying I think spitfire wins as I don't know who it is.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except the 10/10 or 7/10 isn't 10 different fights.Its what percentage you think the person could win.Meaning if you think spitfire has a 70% chance of winning then they win 7/10.
same difference anyone who gives sabretooth a 30% (3/10) chance of winning just needs to elaborate on HOW he gets that chance.
he only has a 30% chance of grabbing her based on what though? see it's all baseless claims why isn't it a 60% chance of grabbng her?, what if we look at it this way..
1) She isn't one shotting him - in any universe -
2) Sabretooth OFTEN lets the attacker unleash merry hell to gauge strength, learn attack patterns and formulate a strategy to catch them off guard, its practically a trademark of his, to play possum.
3) A PERFECT legitimate strategy in this fight would be for sabretooth to tank 2 blitz hits, fein injury and catch Spitfire on the next pass, look at his history of attack defend combat and tell me with a straite face this isn't grade A Sabretooth combat tactics..
is any of what ive said too farfetched? i mean really?
Originally posted by Juk3nHAHA I edited.
he only has a 30% chance of grabbing her based on what though? see it's all baseless claims why isn't it a 60% chance of grabbng her?, what if we look at it this way..
1) She isn't one shotting him - in any universe -
2) Sabretooth OFTEN lets the attacker unleash merry hell to gauge strength, learn attack patterns and formulate a strategy to catch them off guard, its practically a trademark of his, to play possum.
3) A PERFECT legitimate strategy in this fight would be for sabretooth to tank 2 blitz hits, fein injury and catch Spitfire on the next pass, look at his history of attack defend combat and tell me with a straite face this isn't grade A Sabretooth combat tactics..is any of what ive said too farfetched? i mean really?
And again I'm not even saying Creed looses nor gave I any percentage. All I did was to argue the Hans fight.