Originally posted by Zeuodin
It's the only time in DD history that we see him stop moving, stop fighting, stop killing for a prolongued period of time. after he's hit with the Omegas.
umm....he wasn't down for a prolonged period of time after being hit by the omega beam....unless you count a few seconds as a prolonged period
Originally posted by BlanketYour walk around is less plausible and isn't supported by events. Mine was the most simple and logical.
lolChest emblems have little to do with what I said.
He died against an Imperiex Probe then. Because it wasn't just a conflict, it was a war until he finally met Imperiex at the end of countless days or some shit.
Also, I realize that. Brainiac plucked a floating Doomsday from it right before he was erased... not neccisarily dead.There's also the explanation of that being his first real appearance since DOS as well. Which would be him coming back from the dead anyway, and still fits with the narration.
What the pictures seem to be, are the arcs he died in, or the arcs he came back. To put it simply, and without going into speculation after speculation.
Then there's also what Pauly said, and that Jurgens said Doomsday didn't die by Darkseid.
Originally posted by Starscream MHe was down long enough for DS to give himself a speech. Why wouldn't DS know if something had died from his beams? he's always know what the result was. And He always knows everything that goes on apok. So explain to me, when did DD die in the arch? He wasn't killed by Entropy. That much is for certain.
umm....he wasn't down for a prolonged period of time after being hit by the omega beam....unless you count a few seconds as a prolonged period
Originally posted by -Pr-Odd he believe that Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor yet he believe that Magic will allow Thor to win against Superman.
http://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php
Originally posted by -Pr-
http://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php
lol
This interview actualy proves nothing.
According to Jurgens Odin is not a galaxy buster, Superman is a trilion times more powerful than Thor and Darkseid only poses a threat to due to his political machinations and dangerous mind.
O and Superman is also waay more powerful than Darkseid.
Originally posted by ZeuodinDD didn't die in the arc.
He was down long enough for DS to give himself a speech. Why wouldn't DS know if something had died from his beams? he's always know what the result was. And He always knows everything that goes on apok. So explain to me, when did DD die in the arch? He wasn't killed by Entropy. That much is for certain.
Entropy doesn't kill anyways...entropy would just erase DD from existence. But that never happened.
Originally posted by kgkg
Odd he believe that Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor yet he believe that Magic will allow Thor to win against Superman.
Originally posted by comicfan11
lolThis interview actualy proves nothing.
According to Jurgens Odin is not a galaxy buster, Superman is a trilion times more powerful than Thor and Darkseid only poses a threat to due to his political machinations and dangerous mind.
O and Superman is also waay more powerful than Darkseid.
his opinions on things aren't the same as what he wrote on panel. look at greg pak.
Originally posted by ZeuodinK, saying that it's the arcs he died in, or the arcs he came back in is less plausible than:
Your walk around is less plausible and isn't supported by events. Mine was the most simple and logical.
An Imperiex Probe actually being just an extension of Imperiex and that he died there
And Darkseid killed Doomsday because he said he did, and Doomsday was down for a little bit. Also the art was showing Doomsday smashing DS's face when they said again... STOOPID! Also, they retconned Jurgens when they said 'again' and showed a pic of DD vs DS.
Originally posted by Starscream MAccording to Countdown DD died in the arch. now when did he die? Countdown shows his fight with DS. Now when did he die? You aren't going to contradict Countdown are you? It is a canon comic.
DD didn't die in the arc.Entropy doesn't kill anyways...entropy would just erase DD from existence. But that never happened.
Originally posted by comicfan11
lolThis interview actualy proves nothing.
According to Jurgens Odin is not a galaxy buster, Superman is a trilion times more powerful than Thor and Darkseid only poses a threat to due to his political machinations and dangerous mind.
O and Superman is also waay more powerful than Darkseid.
Somewhere a village is missing their idiot. I'm always amazed how authors come up with ways to defecate all over the work of those who came before them.
If you want to raise or lower a character's power level, that's fine. But at least come up with a decent plot to do so.
Originally posted by BlanketWhen did DD die in the arch? that is all i want from you.
K, saying that it's the arcs he died in, or the arcs he came back in is less plausible than:An Imperiex Probe actually being just an extension of Imperiex and that he died there
And Darkseid killed Doomsday because he said he did, and Doomsday was down for a little bit. Also the art was showing Doomsday smashing DS's face when they said again... STOOPID! Also, they retconned Jurgens when they said 'again' and showed a pic of DD vs DS.
Originally posted by -Pr-
his opinions on things aren't the same as what he wrote on panel. look at greg pak.
Exactly.
That's why nothing that is not in a comic is canon.
Jurgens can say whatever he likes.
If it's not in a comic it doesn't matter.
As for the retcon.
It happened.
It's in a comic.
And small as it may be it still counts.
Other retcons have lasted and they were only a line spoken by a character.
So why is this so difficult to accept?
Originally posted by comicfan11
Exactly.That's why nothing that is not in a comic is canon.
Jurgens can say whatever he likes.
If it's not in a comic it doesn't matter.As for the retcon.
It happened.
It's in a comic.
And small as it may be it still counts.Other retcons have lasted and they were only a line spoken by a character.
So why is this so difficult to accept?
if greg pak says "x happened in the comic i wrote" we still have to accept it, though, regardless of how stupid it might be.
i have no problem with it being the omega that killed him. i just require more proof than a background panel in countdown where they couldn't even get e2 superman's hair right...
Originally posted by ZeuodinThe closest he came was being near entropy... if you want your answer. Because that was way more focused in than Darkseid blasting him with omegas.
When did DD die in the arch? that is all i want from you.
However, in that scenario, the again seems to indicate him coming back from DOS
TBH, the more I look at it, the more it seems like when he came back, rather than when he died. But I guess that's all up to the way you see it... and the way you see it, is so far out in left field, it's astounding.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Jurgens said that Doomsday didn't die, so he didn't die.Imo, that's a fact and it won't change. Unlike his opinion on which character is stronger.
It already changed via a retcon.
DC's editor decisions printed in a comic in 2008>>> Ex-writers internet interview in 2004
Originally posted by Kris BlazeJurgens said Superman was Thousands of times more powerful than Thor too. The interview means shit when the retconns happened later on. Now what killed DD in the H/P Story line. Countdown says he died now what killed him?
Jurgens said that Doomsday didn't die, so he didn't die.Imo, that's a fact and it won't change. Unlike his opinion on which character is stronger.