Originally posted by Zeuodin
Jurgens said Superman was Thousands of times more powerful than Thor too. The interview means shit when the retconns happened later on. Now what killed DD in the H/P Story line. Countdown says he died now what killed him?
Originally posted by -Pr-
if greg pak says "x happened in the comic i wrote" we still have to accept it, though, regardless of how stupid it might be.i have no problem with it being the omega that killed him. i just require more proof than a background panel in countdown where they couldn't even get e2 superman's hair right...
We still have to accept it UNTIL something is done to retcon it.
That's what I'm saying.
As for the panel honestly what's the point of including it when showing all the times DD died if DD didn't die in that panel?
They could show another pick of him beating the JLA or something.
But they only showed the times he died.
Thus the pick from HP
Originally posted by Kris BlazeAnd his story was retconned later. So a retconn trumps the writer's intent of the day. We know that for a fact because the beyonder was retconned. no matter what the writer said happened in the story, the retconn trumps. Now What killed DD in the story. because Count down makes it clear that he died and rose again in that story. What killed him. It wasn't entropy.
Jurgens is not the authority on Thor and Superman. His knowledge seems to be pretty limited, especially regarding Odin. But he wrote Superman/Doomsday.
Originally posted by comicfan11
We still have to accept it UNTIL something is done to retcon it.
That's what I'm saying.As for the panel honestly what's the point of including it when showing all the times DD died if DD didn't die in that panel?
They could show another pick of him beating the JLA or something.
But they only showed the times he died.
Thus the pick from HP
it also showed an imperiex probe fighting him, when it took the actual imperiex to kill him.
i think they were referring to the arc more than the actual exact moment the art shows.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
And his story was retconned later. So a retconn trumps the writer's intent of the day. We know that for a fact because the beyonder was retconned. no matter what the writer said happened in the story, the retconn trumps. Now What killed DD in the story. because Count down makes it clear that he died and rose again in that story. What killed him. It wasn't entropy.
I don't consider the countdown after-panel to be a retcon.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeThe retcon came in The Imperiex Saga. I'm saying when did DD die in H/P. Countdown isn't retconning anything. It is still saying he died in the story like the writer's original intent. But DD didn't die by entropy. So what killed him?
Honestly.I don't consider the countdown after-panel to be a retcon.
Originally posted by -Pr-
it also showed an imperiex probe fighting him, when it took the actual imperiex to kill him.i think they were referring to the arc more than the actual exact moment the art shows.
It was the same battle.
DD only fought Imperiex clones on his way to Imperiex Prime.
And also DD only died in HP when DS shot him.
I know it's not a huge 6-issue retcon a-la Johns but I don't see why it is any less credible.
Originally posted by comicfan11
It was the same battle.
DD only fought Imperiex clones on his way to Imperiex Prime.And also DD only died in HP when DS shot him.
I know it's not a huge 6-issue retcon a-la Johns but I don't see why it is any less credible.
they were in space for days before reaching imperiex, killing countless probes.
i don't know if i'd honestly classify it as being that narrowed down, tbh.