Everything is good up until this:
So I think its pretty easy to say that Zannah has most of both Revans and Nadds knowledge, as well as whatever she found herself.
It's unclear what Bane did with Nadd's holocron but I doubt he gave it to Zannah to study.
Can I ask why?
As for revan's knowledge? Neither one of them had the knowledge of Malachor V, nor the knowledge Revan had before Korriban was plundered.
Bane's pretty much consumed everything in Revan's holocron. I'm confused as to why you don't think that would include his Malachor and Korriban knowledge.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Can I ask why?
Bane's pretty much consumed everything in Revan's holocron. I'm confused as to why you don't think that would include his Malachor and Korriban knowledge. [/B]
Well, it's possible I mean. I don't feel the need to make an argument for it but i'll just leave it out in the realm of possibility.
Fair enough, but don't mind me if I do the opposite.
There is no proof that Revan's holocron contained all of the teachings of Revan. There was a lot of philosophy and some arcane rituals but Bane learned that holocron within a few weeks, so the information couldn't have been in great detail. He then destroyed the holocron which pretty much means Zannah never saw it or Revan's teachings.
Well theres no real reason why Revan wouldn't include that knowledge either. I mean, why would he want to keep that knowledge away from the one deemed worthy of finding his holocron. He didn't even deem himself worthy (as it doesn't appear when he goes back in Kotor).
And its made pretty clear that Bane's been studying non-stop for weeks. That's a lot of infor he could learn. That coupled with Banes high learning rate make it possible in my eyes. And its logical that he'd pass on that knowledge Zannah.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Fair enough, but don't mind me if I do the opposite.Well theres no real reason why Revan wouldn't include that knowledge either. I mean, why would he want to keep that knowledge away from the one deemed worthy of finding his holocron. He didn't even deem himself worthy (as it doesn't appear when he goes back in Kotor).
And its made pretty clear that Bane's been studying non-stop for weeks. That's a lot of infor he could learn. That coupled with Banes high learning rate make it possible in my eyes. And its logical that he'd pass on that knowledge Zannah. [/B]
Because he wasn't exactly looking for a successor. Read POD carefully. There were only a few rituals in there, and most of it was dark side philosophy. Unless you want to tell me that Revan only knew a few rituals during his stay in the underground cities on Malachor V and the tombs of Korriban, it's logical to believe that Revan included only a fraction of his knowledge in the holocron.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
You haven't, but you're known on this forum for denial.
If I'm "laughably stupid", and I'm making you my *****, what does that make you?
And instead of you providing page numbers for your bullshit and asking me to search or it, I see you're conceding.
To assume it's blockable, one must have basic knowledge of sith sorcery, and that's to block basic sith sorcery attacks, not what Zannah did.
And no, Zannah implies one's force defenses will counter her sorcery. She says in her duel with Raskta's apprentice that not having focused on force defense leaves one more vulnerable to her sorcery. AND not to mention the tiny yet crucial detail she only pulls it off when he turns away from her distracted
Typical lightsnake. When he's getting his ass kicked, he proceeds to lie to himself, project his faults and insecurities on other people, and call people names. It would be funny if it wasn't damn sad. You don't know the first thing of being civil and you're too much of a tool to learn. I suggest you stop posting because every facet of your "argument" has been shot down.
You haven't provided an argument, you've just been all over the place everytime I prove you wrong.
And even if you did provide an argument, you wouldn't ask me to prove my assertions since what I'm doing is proving yours wrong, and backing up my argument with actual text.
And there we have it! Lightsnake's ultimate concession involves "tdtd" and and an insult.
Good for him. If he's to be believed, half of the old republic comics, games and movies are invalid.
Since arguing with you is like arguing with an adolescent ape, I decided to go and check regarding Serra, since you're either too lazy or too inept. What I found has absolutely nothing to do with the argument and further proves that you're desperately using misdirection and flying all over the place in order to conceal your embarrassing attempts at an argument.
Wow LS, nothing about him being too weak to fight Zannah. I rather enjoy you making shit up. Please continue to amuse me before
you finally figure out that you've lost. Again.
No weakness there...
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Only when I'm arguing against you. Up until then, you're a pathetic little lapdog like you were to the Antediluvians
And once again, if I'm a pathetic little lapdog, and I'm kicking your ass, what does that make you? I would also ask you to prove that I'm tdtd, but that goes beyond your capabilities.
Amused at your denial
I don't own the book, idiot. I rented it from the library.
So it's totally unblockable to light siders all of a sudden? And 'what Zannah did? Based on?
And no, Zannah implies one's force defenses will counter her sorcery. She says in her duel with Raskta's apprentice that not having focused on force defense leaves one more vulnerable to her sorcery. AND not to mention the tiny yet crucial detail she only pulls it off when he turns away from her distracted
Oh, do shut it. I've been civil while you've been your typical complete brat self, claiming everything's been shot down. Blah, blah, blah
With what? When have you proved...anything? You pointed out Zannah had other sources of knowledge which isn't what I contested, given I was talking about her SITH SPELL
And failing to address most of my points, given nowhere in the text does it state what Zannah is using is unblockable
Lightsnake's irritation involves bringing up your past as a complete sockpuppet and you riding the backs of your betters
I love how you say I was lying, then quote the bit that proves that what I was saying was true/
Yeah, he's only considering possessing Serra because3 of his physical issues and stops because he's not sure if he can overcome her.No weakness there... [/B]
Btw, I'm wondering if you're ever going to have a legitimate argument here again, or if you will persist with the Ad hominen attacks as your argument. Don't worry it doesn't affect me because if you were intelligent and self aware, I would be a little peeved. Since you're a mentally unstable social outcast, I think your rants help you sleep better at night.
I will pay anyone $10 via paypal if they can spot a valid point in Lightsnake's argument. You heard correctly..
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Please advise, you lost the argument yesterday. I am only responding because I find your inability to admit defeat, humorous.And once again, if I'm a pathetic little lapdog, and I'm kicking your ass, what does that make you? I would also ask you to prove that I'm tdtd, but that goes beyond your capabilities.
So I insult you for your continual denial, and your response is that you're amused with my denial? It's so easy to kick your ass in a debate lightsnake. You're a predictable little geek who fails at being objective and starts crying as soon as you start losing.
AHAHAAH so you make bullshit up and misquote things and I'm the idiot because I thought you owned the book? AHAHAHAHAHA
Who said it was totally unblockable? The onus is on you to prove it is blockable with no knowledge of sith sorcery, or even basic knowledge of sith sorcery.
Page number or shut up. You've made up too much shit for me to trust anything you've said.
Do you know how to quote things anymore, or are you too heated to think?
You know, all the times you screw up on spelling and grammar and the quote function and you think you can talk down to others with it? Hilarious
Ah, and lightsnake continues the lying. You claimed that it can be countered because she learned ONLY from what Bane gave her. I proved you wrong and now you're back peddling. This is too easy.
You haven't made ANY valid points. You jump from one point to the next after the first one is destroyed, you're desperately grasping at straws, and your personal attacks are hilarious.
The text doesn't have to show that it's unblockable. But there's no proof that it is blockable.
Furthermore, because Bane prepared for her sith sorcery and was totally at a loss, it reinforces my point that it's highly unlikely that someone who isn't adept at sith sorcery could block her spells. You lose.
Except I haven't been riding anyone's backs, I've been kicking your ass all by myself, and everytime I do kick your ass, you resort to the hilarious "you're a sock who rides other people" insult, which is the last step before you concede. Too predictable.
Except the quote proves that you were lying. You claimed the quote would have something to do with Bane being weakened, whereas the quote had NOTHING to do with that. But please, i want to see you spin this to fit your argument.
Sorry, the quote makes it clear that it's a battle of wills. It has nothing to do with Bane's alledged weakness. You're done lightsnake, but as the past shows us, you don't admit defeat. You just ***** and back peddle and hope the other person just gives up arguing with you, then claim victory. You're owned.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Once again: it makes you utterly delusional. You have this weird misconception that even responding to anyone means you're 'kicking their ass' even whenConsidering you posted the section that actually backed up what I was saying...
How was I misquoting things? I said Bane was physically weakened and so considered taking over Serra, but decided against it.
You accused me of lying and cited a seciton where Bane has her corpse buried. I said to read the previous page...which backed me upFor the last time: Zannah implies directly her sorcery is blockable when she duels Sarro.
Hell, zannah managed to instinctively shield herself from the Thought Bomb, which is Sith sorcery, with no training, on instinct. Other examples of defending oneself from Sith Magic exist as well.Duel with Sarro Xaj. I'm not obliged to provide you with anything else.
And please inform me what I've made up. I've said that Bane was deteriorating physically and considered taking over Princess Serra.You know, all the times you screw up on spelling and grammar and the quote function and you think you can talk down to others with it? Hilarious
I was incorrect when I said she got everything from the one Sith Scroll yes. What IS the overall point here?
Uh, no. Just about every external technique is blockable and Sith sorcery is also blockable. Bane aimed to take her body there. It had one use. No more complicated than that.
Ugh. Even after providing the text...Bane prepared specifically for her spell. He was unaware she'd studied elsewhere as you yourself provided. As a result, he was unprepared for that assault after he'd just had to throw off her spell
Well, you are a brownnosing little sock who's clung to me, Gideon and the Antediluvians until we disagree with you where you go into frothing outrage.
Uhhh....Bane was physically deteriorating, hence the whole "go learn the secrets of essence transfer. It's a big point of the book. What the hell was I lying about?
Here's a thought: Is Bane living out his homosexual fantasies by taking over the bodies of women or is he attempting this because his body is deteriorating? Which is it?
Grow up.
I'm posting this because you have no argument, nor have you attempted to make one. You constantly make yourself look like a heated, foolish child with your outbursts and inappropriate remarks, and instead of conceding that you have no argument and that whatever points you "attempted" to make have been defeated, you continue with your nonsense hoping I just give up.
So from now on, until the time where you can grow common sense and a brain and concede that you're wrong, I'm going to be posting pictures of furry animals in the hopes that by looking at them, you will calm down and realize how foolish you've been looking. Ciao for now LS, I expect a hilarious rebuttal!