Cyclops vs Namor

i repeat myself when he blasts world war hulk he is telling everybody to move because he is going all out on world war hulk so maybe the artist didnt portray the amount of damage the blast can make to the environment all around but it was stated that cyclops went all out which means this was his strongest blast

Originally posted by Superman>>Thor
wow didnt know you are a dirty arab

Enjoy being banned. wavey

Originally posted by Superman>>Thor
i repeat myself when he blasts world war hulk he is telling everybody to move because he is going all out on world war hulk so maybe the artist didnt portray the amount of damage the blast can make to the environment all around but it was stated that cyclops went all out which means this was his strongest blast

Here's a known fact. Scott can't release a full powered blast with his visor on. He used the full power of his visor maybe, but that wasn't his lawn blast.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Here's a known fact. Scott can't release a full powered blast with his visor on. He used the full power of his visor maybe, but that wasn't his lawn blast.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Cyclops' full powered blast is quite impressive but I'm not quite convinced it is enough to take down Namor. We have a respect thread here for Namor that is about 80 pages long and (iirc) it has numerous durability feats that in my opinion make it possible for him to survive Cyclops' best shot (such as taking multiple hits from an enraged Hulk and taking blows from Thor welding Mjolnir). That being said, I could see the fight going either way.

If Cyke can keep enough distance between the two, I think he can eventually wear Namor down. But if Namor gets in close, its over quick.

you are trying to compare blunt trauma force to energy attacks, cyclops was able to overload bishop with ordinary blast and lets not forget bishop was able to absorb the electricity of an entire city so that means cyclops "get of my lawn" blast>>>ordinary blast>entire city electricity

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Here's a known fact. Scott can't release a full powered blast with his visor on. He used the full power of his visor maybe, but that wasn't his lawn blast.

the visors dont limit his blast or the power the blast generate the visors are just helping him to control the amount of mass he is generating with his blast but when he is going all out then visors off or on it doesnt matter because its still the same mass and power and as i said before cyclops himself stated that he is going all out and i thinkcyclops knows better then you if he is going all out or not

Originally posted by Superman>>Thor
you are trying to compare blunt trauma force to energy attacks, cyclops was able to overload bishop with ordinary blast and lets not forget bishop was able to absorb the electricity of an entire city so that means cyclops "get of my lawn" blast>>>ordinary blast>entire city electricity

Cyclops' blast is an exotic form of energy that does not exist in real life. In stead of acting like energy from the electro-magnetic spectrum, it only impart a concussive force upon its target like a punch or kick would.

http://marvel.com/universe/Cyclops_%28Scott_Summers%29
Cyclops possesses the mutant ability to project a beam of heatless ruby-colored concussive force from his eyes...

you just dont get it do you? while its not fire he is shooting from his eyes its still energy and energy and a punch or kick is different, the difference is when iron man punched namor it almost didnt do a crap but when he blasted him it caused damage because energy attack is a different force then a solid blunt force and the thing with cyclops is that ints not a single blast for a second but he is kipping that beam on you as long as his eyes are opened namor just cant take it

Originally posted by Superman>>Thor
you just dont get it do you? while its not fire he is shooting from his eyes its still energy and energy and a punch or kick is different, the difference is when iron man punched namor it almost didnt do a crap but when he blasted him it caused damage because energy attack is a different force then a solid blunt force and the thing with cyclops is that ints not a single blast for a second but he is kipping that beam on you as long as his eyes are opened namor just cant take it

Iron man's blasts are a lot different than cyclops....

Cyclops blasts are described as concussive blasts... pure force...

Whereas ironman's repulsor blasts, plasma bolts... etc... are blasts of heat/ radiation... it is a combination of heat/energy, and force that iron man fires... which is why some times things catch on fire when hit by the iron man blasts.. but not the same as by cyclops...

Originally posted by rotiart
Iron man's blasts are a lot different than cyclops....

Cyclops blasts are described as concussive blasts... pure force...

Whereas ironman's repulsor blasts, plasma bolts... etc... are blasts of heat/ radiation... it is a combination of heat/energy, and force that iron man fires... which is why some times things catch on fire when hit by the iron man blasts.. but not the same as by cyclops...

Thanks. 👆
I don't know if I could have been that succinct or that polite in explaining the difference.

Didn't Namor deflect IM's blast?

Has Cyke put down any class 100+ beings?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Didn't Namor deflect IM's blast?

Has Cyke put down any class 100+ beings?

He's fought Juggernaut before and won, but as you can imagine the context of the feat is important.

Honestly, I didn't have that much respect for ol' one eye until I came to KMC, read through his respect thread, and read some very informed people debate in his favor. Now, he's one of my favorites. Not sure if he can win against Namor, but I'd wager he'd give the water breather a run for his money.

Originally posted by TheKahn
He's fought Juggernaut before and won, but as you can imagine the context of the feat is important.

Yep, I read that.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I dont recall it ever beeing stated that he has to take his visor off to do a full powered blast.

given the design of the visor, it's pretty obvious, tbh.

and i think scott does have the power to put down namor with high level blasts (based on his other feats). that's assuming he cuts loose, though, which is something he rarely does.

Your average Namor won't tank Cyclops's strongest blast.

Your average Cyclops won't throw his strongest blasts in any battle.

The winner is decided by water and distance to be honest.

Manors power ratio goes from class 100 to just above average human based upon his water levels... If he didn't have his water suit... And hasn't been near water for a couple hours say... Out in a desert... Cyclops could win...

But a manor fresh out of the water for this fight is going straight into the heart of cyclops blasts with slight wounds and knocking his head off.

I've always been a fan of cyclops but no way does he have the power to take on manor normally

Originally posted by rotiart
Manors power ratio goes from class 100 to just above average human based upon his water levels... If he didn't have his water suit... And hasn't been near water for a couple hours say... Out in a desert... Cyclops could win...

But a manor fresh out of the water for this fight is going straight into the heart of cyclops blasts with slight wounds and knocking his head off.

I've always been a fan of cyclops but no way does he have the power to take on manor normally

who the hell is manor? and its so obvious you are a namor fanboy give me a break i just love how every time someone is going up against some character he is always saying "i love that character" just to look more credible its like those racist who say "by the way all my friends are black but....." same way here you are not a fan of cyclops so dont crap my yanks and cyclops stomp this with his "GOML" blast

Oddly enough, Cain does float. If Scott could do lawn blasts with the visor on then why would he ever take it off? He had plenty of time to shoot the sentinel with a "lawn" blast when he had his visor on.

Originally posted by jujitsudoku
who the hell is manor? and its so obvious you are a namor fanboy give me a break i just love how every time someone is going up against some character he is always saying "i love that character" just to look more credible its like those racist who say "by the way all my friends are black but....." same way here you are not a fan of cyclops so dont crap my yanks and cyclops stomp this with his "GOML" blast

that scott like me is the older brother trying to protect his younger brother Alex

Oh FYI when I type crappy it's cause I'm at work sneaking posts 8-5 on my iPhone as I am now
Scott has shown his power with statements like being able to crack the moon
clearing a room of soldiers in a way that made wolverine go omfg

And when Emma took his limits off he overload bishop with enough for e to destroy an sentinels arm... Something they though it would take five seconds of continuous blast fro.m a limited cyclops to do

I also love cap
Btw I hate wolverine or if you don't get that by my posts

been readin the ensuing arguements........and although i'm not to sure it's completely relevant, since it occured very long ago.........but Namor shrugged off cyke's beam rather easily back in the classic X-men era(aka when beast was white, and iceman was a main core member)