Cyclops vs Namor

Originally posted by namorsubby
been readin the ensuing arguements........and although i'm not to sure it's completely relevant, since it occured very long ago.........but Namor shrugged off cyke's beam rather easily back in the classic X-men era(aka when beast was white, and iceman was a main core member)

why the hell do you bring in the classic cyclops when his beams were portrayed as nothing but red straws?since then his character including his powers were evolved and know we see that he controls the power and mass of his beams and now we are talking about his strongest optic blast that he didnt use back then

IRRC Jeff Parker cited Namora as Namors equal twice now in Agents of Atlas.

So in Scotts defence he could take a few depending on how far they stand a part.

I mean a blast like this was able to hurt and remove Namora from the air. The Uranian used his mental powers to buy his team enough time to steal the Cerebra core and escape.

Originally posted by Doublejuice
why the hell do you bring in the classic cyclops when his beams were portrayed as nothing but red straws?since then his character including his powers were evolved and know we see that he controls the power and mass of his beams and now we are talking about his strongest optic blast that he didnt use back then

been readin the ensuing arguements........and although i'm not too sure it's completely relevant, since it occured very long ago.........but Namor shrugged off cyke's beam rather easily back in the classic X-men era(aka when beast was white, and iceman was a main core member)

dense.

also......just to add.......I'd heard of cyke perfecting and improving his skill with his powers since those days, but i've never heard it stated anywhere that his power has increased in any way.

.........red straws????? WTF?

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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
IRRC Jeff Parker cited Namora as Namors equal twice now in Agents of Atlas.

So in Scotts defence he could take a few depending on how far they stand a part.

I mean a blast like this was able to hurt and remove Namora from the air. The Uranian used his mental powers to buy his team enough time to steal the Cerebra core and escape.

it's been implied for some time, but Namora still hasn't shown us much of anything to suggest she's on Namor's level power-wise......those scans may actually be evidence against her(if scott's blast hasn't gotten any stronger since classic times). I actually do hope we start to see her kick just as much butt as namor though.......the scans will make great additions to my thread.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
it's been implied for some time, but Namora still hasn't shown us much of anything to suggest she's on Namor's level power-wise......those scans may actually be evidence against her(if scott's blast hasn't gotten any stronger since classic times). I actually do hope we start to see her kick just as much butt as namor though.......the scans will make great additions to my thread.lol

In that issue Namors Fraption was "No equal in Water", Namora's Fraption was "See Namor" and then I think she was called his equal in the Agents of Atlas Dark Reign arc. But you're right she doesn't have the feats to back those statements up I guess.

Scotts powers have gotten stronger since classic times though. He has had I think two upgrades if I'm not mistaken I was re-reading my UXM issues and the first was early on like before Byrne. Pr probably knows exactly when and where it happened. I was never that big a fan of Cyclops until Morrison. 😛

I remember that from agents of atlas #1........i think i put it in my thread.....and I know she's claimed herself to by equal more than once(incredible hulk #107,incredible hercules 122).....but yeah....there's a matter of the feats.

still though, she hasn't been back around for that long(since about 2006) and hasn't appeared in basically anything besides the agents of atlas series 1 and 2.......she's done some impressive things(beating miss marvel, having a little 2 second mano e mano with WWH, etc)......i honestly can't wait to see if she'll live up to the hype.

I wasn't aware he had had any upgrades in the actual power of his beam......my bad. 😮

Found this, warning Spoilers from AXM #33

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1354318.html

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Found this, warning Spoilers from AXM #33

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1354318.html

...HA.

namor

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Found this, warning Spoilers from AXM #33

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1354318.html

Cyclops

what can cyclops do if namor grabs him? hes only human strength.......

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what can cyclops do if namor grabs him? hes only human strength.......

open his eyes.

Originally posted by -Pr-
open his eyes.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
namor can crush both his fist so he would be able to turn on the visor.......

the visor operates on cyclops' thoughts if he wants it to.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the visor operates on cyclops' thoughts if he wants it to.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
when was this ever displayed 😘

how many times have you seen cyclops use his visor without touching it? granted, some of it is the buttons in his gloves (which are still usable btw), but sometimes it's just the visor.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what can cyclops do if namor grabs him? hes only human strength.......

Originally posted by -Pr-
open his eyes.

I've only seen Namor take Cyclop's Optic Beams twice and each time he has shrugged them off without being hurt. Once I believe it was stated Cyclops was giving it his all if I recall correctly.

Unless they've had another encounter, based on what I recall, Namor beats his face in 10/10.

Especially if you take into account his speed, and ability to absorb and redirect energy. He once absorbed the energy equivalent to a nuclear warhead I believe in a fight with Presence.

Originally posted by -Pr-
...HA.

Raoul just jizzed.

i don't blame him, anytime cyclops does that it's epic.

the one he did to onslaught was was exactly like the super from one of those marvel vs games, so it's the best by default imo.