Draft Round 1: Batdude123 and TheKahn's Holiday Herald Tournament

Started by Digi11 pages

Originally posted by Badabing
Warned for not heeding Digi's warning! sneer

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Let me, PR or Digi know if/when we need to intervene regarding posts, edits, etc.

Indeed.

I'd also be the most awesome tourney host ever with my current mentality toward them. And by that I mean awesome for me, not for participants. Everything would be banned.

Even though the rules aren't detailed, this is still a fairly airtight tourney. Mainly because meshing past herald is banned, and because they wisely reserved the right to ban things whenever they feel like it.

Originally posted by Digi
Indeed.

I'd also be the most awesome tourney host ever with my current mentality toward them. And by that I mean awesome for me, not for participants. Everything would be banned.

Digi's dream championship fight: quadriplegic Batman vs comatose Captain America. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by King Kandy
Even though the rules aren't detailed, this is still a fairly airtight tourney. Mainly because meshing past herald is banned, and because they wisely reserved the right to ban things whenever they feel like it.

I think it might be tricky to determine what the line is...regarding being past herald. it's not a clear cut line.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think it might be tricky to determine what the line is...regarding being past herald. it's not a clear cut line.

Not at all. Since Thor can hurt celestials, Superman can amp up to beat Imperiexes, Silver Surfer can literally bring back entire planets to life, and Kyle has beaten Amazo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think it might be tricky to determine what the line is...regarding being past herald. it's not a clear cut line.

Yeah its going to be a little tricky and its going to be a subjective decision for every judge to make. Personally, I see the issue as that if an amped character appears to be capable of feats belonging to a skyfather rather than a herald. And I honestly think crossing that gap under the time/prep limits of this tourney will be quite difficult.

That's a rather big gap to me; like the difference between a planetary threat and a galactic one. Making Superman stronger, or Thor faster really isn't going to cross the line. But that's just my opinion and other judges may have different views on the issue.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Not at all. Since Thor can hurt celestials, Superman can amp up to beat Imperiexes, Silver Surfer can literally bring back entire planets to life, and Kyle has beaten Amazo.

The judges aren't going to base their decisions on character's high-end feats alone. In my mind, I consider what is typical of a character's strength/speed/durability/destructive power when considering an argument for that particular individual.

A debater better have a damn good argument if they want me to accept either a high or low outlier feat as definative.

Originally posted by TheKahn
But that's just my opinion and other judges may have different views on the issue.
who would you say would be the lowest skyfather...or an example of one?

would depowered tyrant be skyfather?

I always considered Tyrant to be above most skyfathers.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I always considered Tyrant to be above most skyfathers.
so who would be a low skyfather? thanos?

Originally posted by Starscream M
who would you say would be the lowest skyfather...or an example of one?

would depowered tyrant be skyfather?

My personal standard is Thanos. He was able to put up a respectable fight against Odin with the latter saying Thanos could draw upon a reserve of energy nearly as limitless and powerful as the All-father's. Add in the fact that he has routinely owned the Silver Surfer with little to no effort and that puts him clearly above the herald level in my mind.

The Second Round of Drafting for Batdude and Kahn's Tournament will be Monday, Dec. 21 at 8pm EST. 🙂

what makes tyrant above skyfather? He didn't even one shot heralds like odin did. A low skyfather would be Takion or Thanos.

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Just because this is a tourny thread does not mean it's excluded from the forum rules. I don't want to see people bashing or trolling. I won't name people now but warnings will be handed out if there are problems. One poster in particular has a track record of interjecting themselves in tourny discussions

Originally posted by Zeuodin
what makes tyrant above skyfather? He didn't even one shot heralds like odin did. A low skyfather would be Takion or Thanos.

He did oneshot heralds though, iirc.

Anyway, I mainly ranked him like that because he did better against Thanos than Odin did.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He did oneshot heralds though, iirc.

Anyway, I mainly ranked him like that because he did better against Thanos than Odin did.

Actually Thanos was looking worse when Odin was done with him. Hell a black Hole made thanos look worse than both those guys.

With Odin, Thanos just got his clothes tattered. With Tyrant they got totally destroyed. Besides, he had a powerup fighting Tyrant that he didn't have against Odin.

Originally posted by King Kandy
With Odin, Thanos just got his clothes tattered. With Tyrant they got totally destroyed. Besides, he had a powerup fighting Tyrant that he didn't have against Odin.
Odin also was a hero and not trying to destroy his home or the beings that lived there. Tyrant had no such restrictions. Tyrant also did worse against Surfer than Odin did.

If you guys want to debate Thanos vs Tryant vs Odin, please use the VS Forum. 😐

Btw, Post Zero Hour Element Lad is definitely banned from this tournament. 😐