Who in Marvel can defeat Shuma-Gorath in its realm?

sentry, molecule man, beyonder

Originally posted by shokosugi
MJJ, Molecule Man, HOM wanda, Dark Phoenix, any of the Celestials, Abraxas

MJJ, Abraxas, Celestials won't do it in Shuma's dimension.

Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ, Abraxas, Celestials won't do it in Shuma's dimension.

lol

Originally posted by CortSether
Is that the MJJ vs Shuma-Gorath thread where you and geraldthesloth were debating against Lunacyde and someone else about who'd win between Shuma and Jaspers?

I can't remember off hand. It was a long time ago.

Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ, Abraxas, Celestials won't do it in Shuma's dimension.

The Adjudicator

the celestials will absolutely f' up Shuma Gorath

Originally posted by King Kandy
They certainly will. Well maybe not the Celestials but the first two.

MJJ and Abraxas wouldn't know what hit them. Yea, on neutral ground it would more than likely be MJJ or Abraxas as the victor against Shuma, but in its home dimension Shuma would **** them up. It's omnipotent in every sense of the word. Dr.Strange still couldn't destroy Shuma without killing himself because he would have turned into Shuma-Gorath, which would have been a win for Shuma. That kind of power that Dr.Strange held from Shuma was stated that it would have destroyed Galaxies just by being present.

Shuma doesnt get enough credit, as usual. As for Eternity beating him, ask yourseld if you have ever seen Eternity win a fight.

Superman

Superman dies horrible in arguably his most dominating loss ever.

counter vibration

Originally posted by bbrem123
counter vibration

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Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ and Abraxas wouldn't know what hit them. Yea, on neutral ground it would more than likely be MJJ or Abraxas as the victor against Shuma, but in its home dimension Shuma would **** them up. It's omnipotent in every sense of the word. Dr.Strange still couldn't destroy Shuma without killing himself because he would have turned into Shuma-Gorath, which would have been a win for Shuma. That kind of power that Dr.Strange held from Shuma was stated that it would have destroyed Galaxies just by being present.

doubtful. Abraxas' role is Dimensional Destroyer. For all his power shuma is just in another dimension. Eternity was terrified of Abraxas. Agamotto didn't want anything to do with Shuma, but Lord Chaos and Master Order are the supreme beings in Agamotto's realm. Chaos and Order and below Eternity in power.

Dr. Strange beat Shuma Gorath. The Ultimate Nullifier defeated Abraxas. MJJ was defeated by being taken to a non-reality. Shuma's realm is a reality. You're really going to say that Abraxas and MJJ can't do what Strange did?

you shouldn't compare Dr. Strange with Abraxas, or any other abstract/abstract level character.

All you need is Classic Strange, Reed or Doom with prep and they win.

Barring that.. abstract level or higher.

Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ and Abraxas wouldn't know what hit them. Yea, on neutral ground it would more than likely be MJJ or Abraxas as the victor against Shuma, but in its home dimension Shuma would **** them up. It's omnipotent in every sense of the word. Dr.Strange still couldn't destroy Shuma without killing himself because he would have turned into Shuma-Gorath, which would have been a win for Shuma. That kind of power that Dr.Strange held from Shuma was stated that it would have destroyed Galaxies just by being present.

What exactly is stopping MJJ from just warping this shit out of Shumas realm?

Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ and Abraxas wouldn't know what hit them. Yea, on neutral ground it would more than likely be MJJ or Abraxas as the victor against Shuma, but in its home dimension Shuma would **** them up. It's omnipotent in every sense of the word. Dr.Strange still couldn't destroy Shuma without killing himself because he would have turned into Shuma-Gorath, which would have been a win for Shuma. That kind of power that Dr.Strange held from Shuma was stated that it would have destroyed Galaxies just by being present.

So... Being or having your own realm isn't all special

ego is a planet and so is mogo and people beat them whole on terrain they should 100% control

Originally posted by CortSether
MJJ and Abraxas wouldn't know what hit them. Yea, on neutral ground it would more than likely be MJJ or Abraxas as the victor against Shuma, but in its home dimension Shuma would **** them up. It's omnipotent in every sense of the word. Dr.Strange still couldn't destroy Shuma without killing himself because he would have turned into Shuma-Gorath, which would have been a win for Shuma. That kind of power that Dr.Strange held from Shuma was stated that it would have destroyed Galaxies just by being present.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Who cares about destroying Galaxies by being present? What's funny is Abraxas actually has the same feat, except he causes entire universes collapse by simply being in them.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So blasting and destroying Galaxies >> Destroying Galaxies because you are near one? Personally i think they are pretty much the same not because of the means but the ends.