Who in Marvel can defeat Shuma-Gorath in its realm?

Started by SoulDevourer5 pages

Originally posted by galactusischere
oh yea mephisto was all scared because galactus was only eating a planet 🙄
Meph also said taht he was omnipotent in hes realm.
yeah i know, but it definitly looked like a planet.with fire & lava & all that

btw hes *suppose* to be omnipotent in his ralm yet hes been defeated there by lo-lvl metas lol. ok so maybe thats PIS, but then wut if his fight with Galactus is ALSO pis? 😄

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah i know, but it definitly looked like a planet.with fire & lava & all that

btw hes *suppose* to be omnipotent in his ralm yet hes been defeated there by lo-lvl metas lol. ok so maybe thats PIS, but then wut if his fight with Galactus is ALSO pis? 😄

Shuma was defeated by Strange in hes realm...

Originally posted by galactusischere
Shuma was defeated by Strange in hes realm...
yeah he absorb the magic from that ralm & it wasnt even a real defeat (irrc shuma possessed him after he was "killed"😉

btw strange had some *major* prep before dat fight, like backing from several gods including AGAMOTO! (uknow, the one who Living tribunal himself turn to help to fight Protege? 😄)

Thanos. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah he absorb the magic from that ralm & it wasnt even a real defeat (irrc shuma possessed him after he was "killed"😉

btw strange had some *major* prep before dat fight, like backing from several gods including AGAMOTO! (uknow, the one who Living tribunal himself turn to help to fight Protege? 😄)

then we come to a conclusion? Shuma or any of hes peers such as Zom or Arch Enemy can't beat Galactus

Originally posted by galactusischere
then we come to a conclusion? Shuma or any of hes peers such as Zom or Arch Enemy can't beat Galactus
wut...how do u come to that? 🤨 i only said Agamoto is superpowerfull

btw Zom less then SG. maybe around Dormamu. dunno about Archenemy, iirc he had all the other gods like mephisto & dormamu scared shitless but it never mention Shuma. Archenemy always look like abstract lvl IMO

Shuma Gorath takes MJJ to a dimension where MJJ's powers don't work and kills him there. What Fury did wasn't hard to figure out. Fury logically figured that a reality warper such as Jasper would need to be in an existing universe in order for his powers to work. There's magic, science, and cosmic. It's not hard for anyone with Spiderman intelligence or above to figure out what type of power MJJ has. Strange has already dumped Thanos and Surfer into a dimension where they're powers don't work. SG's teleports MJJ to a destroyed universe and kills him there.

Sure, WWK, anyway...

Are there many nullified universes lying around?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Shuma Gorath takes MJJ to a dimension where MJJ's powers don't work
and kills him there.


Come on good friend,
as though MJJ is just gonna sit there and allow that.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Strange has already dumped
Thanos and Surfer into a dimension where they're powers don't work.


Thanos, Surfer and Strange himself are all insect to one such as MJJ (238 or 616)

What Strange can do to Thanos and/or Surfer is of no consequence concerning MJJ.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

SG's teleports MJJ to a destroyed universe and kills him there.


Easier said than done.

Like:

MJJ turns Shuma into a harmless squid, and then has him for lunch.

See. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Come on good friend,
as though MJJ is just gonna sit there and allow that.

Thanos, Surfer and Strange himself are all insect to one such as MJJ (238 or 616)

And they're insects to SG too.


What Strange can do to Thanos and/or Surfer is of no consequence concerning MJJ.

It should be considering taking him to a place where his powers don't work has been proven effective.


Easier said than done.

Like:

MJJ turns Shuma into a harmless squid, and then has him for lunch.

See. 😛

Was that what he did to Fury? Nah, he was too busy being silly and got creamed by it. He's going to act like a goof giving SG the opportunity to drag him out of his element and kill his sorry ass.

Superman. 😄

Originally posted by galactusischere
oh yea mephisto was all scared because galactus was only eating a planet 🙄
Meph also said taht he was omnipotent in hes realm.

Except it was already stated in the arc with Shuma that Mephisto and Satannish are like like mice in a great temple compared to Shuma's power in one of its lesser realms. If Galactus tried absorbing Shuma's realm he would get slaughtered.

Galactus eats planets, Shuma-Gorath eats and conquers entire universes separate from the 616.

MJJ would not be able to do it either. Shumas powers are magical in nature and therefore different than merely physical. Shuma can shatter realities. Shuma's intelligence is nearly omniscient, it can teleport, phase and levitate, and on top of that has reality warping powers similar to Jaspers. Nothing has been shown to even phase Shuma aside from the most powerful of magics, and even when Shuma was temporarily destroyed it was done so by using its own magically generated energy against it, so it was like a self K.O.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

And they're insects to SG too.


No doubt.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

It should be considering taking him to a place where his powers don't work has been proven effective.


Yea but, that was the Fury who was nearly completely immune to JJ's power.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Was that what he did to Fury? Nah, he was too busy being silly and got creamed by it. He's going to act like a goof giving SG the opportunity to drag him out of his element and kill his sorry ass.


But again, the Fury was nearly completely immune to JJ's warp,
and this is what afforded the Fury the opportunity to last long enough to do that.

Remember, the Fury was Moore's plot device to stop Jaspers,
because in the Jasper's warp arc nothing else could,
not even matrix/Merlyn who was manipulating the Multiverse on a freakin chess board,
who toyed with the life-force of the entire Omniverse.

The Fury = a stipulation to defeat MJJ.

IMO ... Shuma gets wrecked here and easily at that.