Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not his individual feats that are the problem. its when you put it all together. it's basically superman and norrin combined.and the fortress version was an amped version of them.
Originally posted by id369
Why is Eradicator Fortress Mode listed as High Herald? And whats the rank for common Eradicator?
because the tiers aren't always accurate. 😛
normal erads would be high herald.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't get it, Supes and Norrin put together? Norrin already has all of Clark's powers and then some, Supes's powerset doesn't really contribute anything but an uncertain increase in physical strength. So unless Fortress actually did something spectacular I really don't see how he could be considered above the likes of Norrin and/or Cyborg Supes.
it overrode the B13 virus. casually.
and i disagree about what clark adds to norrin. imo its a sizeable addition of strength, reflexes, durability and combat skill. plus all his intelligence when it comes to tech.
Originally posted by -Pr-
it overrode the B13 virus. casually.and i disagree about what clark adds to norrin. imo its a sizeable addition of strength, reflexes, durability and combat skill. plus all his intelligence when it comes to tech.
I'm well aware of your opinions on how Supes and Norrin stack up to each other and I disagree(and from what I've seen many/most others on the board do as well). But unless your're actually wanting to debate about it this particular point isn't really worth arguing over. Of course if your basing his being barred off the claim that Supes's powerset+Norrin's powerset= above Herald level I guess it might be necessary...
Originally posted by id369
@Darthgoober - Is that who you guys intended to draft? Fortress Mode Eradicator that is.
*Edit*
Well to be exact we weren't trying to draft the "Fortress Mode" version, we were drafting the "Full Kryptonian" version who has access to the other version's powersets(Fortress version included).
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah. He was listed as a high herald and I didn't see anything in the respect thread that put him over the cap so I didn't think it'd be a problem given some of the other picks. If it turns out we're wrong about his suitability for this we'll pick a different version or switch him out for someone else, but I don't want to give up a High Herald level character for a less powerful version without good reason.*Edit*
Well to be exact we weren't trying to draft the "Fortress Mode" version, we were drafting the "Full Kryptonian" version who has access to the other version's powersets(Fortress version included).
What can full kryptonian do? 😮
Originally posted by darthgoober
And Cyborg overrode part of the source wall.I'm well aware of your opinions on how Supes and Norrin stack up to each other and I disagree(and from what I've seen many/most others on the board do as well). But unless your're actually wanting to debate about it this particular point isn't really worth arguing over. Of course if your basing his being barred off the claim that Supes's powerset+Norrin's powerset= above Herald level I guess it might be necessary...
i have just as many that agree with me, mister. 😛
and yeah, we don't have to argue about it. i just think fortress mode shouldn't be allowed. if kahn and batdude say different, then so be it.
Originally posted by id369
I am against Beta Ray Bill because he is practically the fusion of Mongul and Thor.He has Mongul physical stats, and Stormbreaker which rivals Mjolnir. That’s a Herald Class brawler, with a herald class weapon.
Clearly Beta Ray Bill is above limit cap.
Clearly. uhuh
😂
Originally posted by id369
What can full kryptonian do? 😮
dropping blue, adding walter west--dark flash:
Originally posted by leonidas
dropping blue, adding walter west--dark flash:
good pick.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i have just as many that agree with me, mister. 😛and yeah, we don't have to argue about it. i just think fortress mode shouldn't be allowed. if kahn and batdude say different, then so be it.
bats had a problem with it at first but then he ok'd it. Now that you've objected though it it'll probably have to be debated and put to a vote though... Which is actually fine by me though because like I said I'm not familiar enough with him to concretely say that he doesn't exceed the cap, I myself just don't know of anything that indicates him to be.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You sure about that since this is a supposedly "Marvel Biased" Forum 😛 .bats had a problem with it at first but then he ok'd it. Now that you've objected though it it'll probably have to be debated and put to a vote though... Which is actually fine by me though because like I said I'm not familiar enough with him to concretely say that he doesn't exceed the cap, I myself just don't know of anything that indicates him to be.
ok, just as many people who are informed about the characters 😛
and that's fine. i'm not trying to cause trouble. i just personally think he's above it. i won't cry about it (yes kris, i'm looking at you) if he ends up being allowed.
Originally posted by -Pr-
ok, just as many people who are informed about the characters 😛and that's fine. i'm not trying to cause trouble. i just personally think he's above it. i won't cry about it (yes kris, i'm looking at you) if he ends up being allowed.
Still if we put it to an open vote, who'd win? 😛
I understand your misgivings and don't fault you for them. I just don't want to find my team at a disadvantage because mine was the only one to be neutered based on a characters potential/powerset rather than his actual feats.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Still if we put it to an open vote, who'd win? 😛I understand your misgivings and don't fault you for them. I just don't want to find my team at a disadvantage because mine was the only one to be neutered based on a characters potential/powerset rather than his actual feats.
me, of course. i'm a mod. 😄
😂 i think it's feats. and besides, we both know even if it was just potential, you would milk every motherf*cking drop out of said potential. 😛
Originally posted by -Pr-
me, of course. i'm a mod. 😄😂 i think it's feats. and besides, we both know even if it was just potential, you would milk every motherf*cking drop out of said potential. 😛
What feats? Seriously, the respect threads only 5 pages long and I've looked at it in quite a bit of detail without seeing anything worth barring him over. And as for "potential" vs "performance"... let's not forget that you drafted Martian Manhunter 😉 .